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    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Ryan Gardner

    I think Gardner has shown great improvement and appears to becoming more confident in his role.

    He doesn't need to be a star, but he can be an important cog.
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    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Ryan Gardner

    Quote Originally Posted by Mofra View Post
    Needs composure, but that that is building with each game.

    Can kick the ball long and has good closing speed so I can see why the club are invested in him. He's a puncher not a marker and I wonder if marking will come with time, because if not he'll always be at threat of losing his spot.
    We had a player a few years back who was almost invariable a spoiler. Somehow we swapped that player (Brian Harris) for someone called Brian Lake who was about the best marking defender in the game for a few years.
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    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Ryan Gardner

    I said this a couple weeks ago, but he just needs to be that 1%er defender. Just create a contest and spoil. This will come from knowing where to be and getting in the right spots, which he has the speed to to do. I'm completely happy with that as we've got a tonne of rebounding defenders who are damaging with the ball.

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    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Ryan Gardner

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc26 View Post
    There are signs of development, which in an environment where coaching is constrained is quite a positive. And although there were some gettable misses, we've been put to the sword on numerous times in the past by the Eagles tall forwards which I felt we more than evened this position last night. I was less nervous on the night with Gardner than I was with Zaine.
    One thing in his favour and ours was we kept the ball outside of their Fwd 50 and starved their forwards of opportunity. They only had 27 inside 50s, they couldn't get it in there.

    I think last night the commentators said the ball was in our half 65% of the game.
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    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Ryan Gardner

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    One thing in his favour and ours was we kept the ball outside of their Fwd 50 and starved their forwards of opportunity. They only had 27 inside 50s, they couldn't get it in there.

    I think last night the commentators said the ball was in our half 65% of the game.
    So you're saying he's ok as long as he's nowhere near it?
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    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Ryan Gardner

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    One thing in his favour and ours was we kept the ball outside of their Fwd 50 and starved their forwards of opportunity. They only had 27 inside 50s, they couldn't get it in there.

    I think last night the commentators said the ball was in our half 65% of the game.
    Your defence always looks better when you defend the ball actually getting into dangerous areas. It is why the midfield doing their bit defensively is so important.
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    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Ryan Gardner

    Coming from a long way back, still get the deer in the headlights feel from him, same with Roarke Smith
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    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Ryan Gardner

    I'm really happy for him. I can actually imagine how a lack of confidence may have ruined him last year and this year but he's actually seemed to ignore that to the best of his ability (trust me, pretty much all players have it) and kept improving.

    Won't say the coaching group has been vindicated as such, however, I will say they're obviously getting him in the right frame of mind for improvement and that is a good thing.
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    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Ryan Gardner

    I think he played a significant role yesterday on two in-form forwards. We kept Kennedy and Darling to two goals only ... he played his part and did it well. He will only ever be a bit player, but as long as he does his bit well, he can stay in the 22.
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    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Ryan Gardner

    With the dogs set to pick up Cody Raak during the draft, I see both Gardner and Raak playing a very similar role. Question is, who’s worth of that spot in the long run.
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    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Ryan Gardner

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog Joe View Post
    We had a player a few years back who was almost invariable a spoiler. Somehow we swapped that player (Brian Harris) for someone called Brian Lake who was about the best marking defender in the game for a few years.
    Thinking the same thing BJ.

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    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Ryan Gardner

    Quote Originally Posted by Vred View Post
    With the dogs set to pick up Cody Raak during the draft, I see both Gardner and Raak playing a very similar role. Question is, who’s worth of that spot in the long run.
    Gardner is 197cm from what I have read Raak is 191 to 192m

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    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Ryan Gardner

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog4life View Post
    Gardner is 197cm from what I have read Raak is 191 to 192m
    Gosh I hope we draft Raak so we can have heated and meaningless debates around his draft height, listed height and current height!

    I just read he is 194cm.

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    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Ryan Gardner

    There is no certainty that we will pick up Raak. He hasn't been invited to the draft camp.
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    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Ryan Gardner

    Quote Originally Posted by Vred View Post
    With the dogs set to pick up Cody Raak during the draft, I see both Gardner and Raak playing a very similar role. Question is, who’s worth of that spot in the long run.
    Raak is an undrafted kid - he's not going to walk in his first year and compete with a 197cm KPD with a few pre-seasons under his belt and (presumably) 10-12 games of experience.
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