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02-06-2019, 08:50 PM
#211
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R11 2019
Originally Posted by
Bullies
9 goals out of 11 from turnovers
As MJP has explained, that is the how most teams are scoring. We're slow to the party in adjusting our game plan accordingly. We play too fast, and seemingly have not read the newsletter that most other clubs have - Don't play risky footy, or you'll get burned on the turnover.
We've had the same amount of shots on goals from turnovers as West Coast.
But we've been pantsed in terms of shots on goal from stoppages.
Our mids are getting reamed.
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02-06-2019, 08:51 PM
#212
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R11 2019
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Hitouts are only 5 difference in this game.
Utterly irrelevant stat. Ask yourself what has been our scoring source from stoppages and how many hitouts to advantage we've gotten from English.
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02-06-2019, 08:52 PM
#213
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R11 2019
Originally Posted by
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
As MJP has explained, that is the how most teams are scoring. We're slow to the party in adjusting our game plan accordingly. We play too fast, and seemingly have not read the newsletter that most other clubs have - Don't play risky footy, or you'll get burned on the turnover.
A lot of our turnovers aren't from fast football it is from ordinary skills and a lot of it with no pressure.
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02-06-2019, 08:54 PM
#214
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R11 2019
Well done Ryan! Good first AFL goal.
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02-06-2019, 08:54 PM
#215
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R11 2019
Originally Posted by
comrade
Eagles taking the piss by deliberately reducing their rotations and resting Hurn for the entire quarter.
Why wouldn't you?
If we're not the easiest side to play against show me who is.
Even when we're getting it on our terms opposing sides can comfort themselves with the knowledge we won't actually make hay.
It's a bottom four side against the reigning premiers, away no less, so in a vacuum the result's hardly shocking, but I hope this is the one that genuinely turns the heat up on the way we're being list managed and coached. It's long overdue purely because the rest of the comp reflexively expects us to be shit.
Oh you pinched a flag? Well done. You can probably relax for another sixty years.
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02-06-2019, 08:55 PM
#216
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R11 2019
It's been stoppages where we've been pummelled today, not turnovers. Our midfield group has been putrid for most of the year, and today has been the worst of the lot.
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02-06-2019, 08:57 PM
#217
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R11 2019
Originally Posted by
Bullies
A lot of our turnovers aren't from fast football it is from ordinary skills and a lot of it with no pressure.
I'm not sure about that. I think those unforced one's stand out more, because they are so cringeworthy. But as I write we just turned one over from Macrae just running and blindly kicking forward without much thought.
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02-06-2019, 08:58 PM
#218
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R11 2019
Originally Posted by
comrade
It's been stoppages where we've been pummelled today, not turnovers. Our midfield group has been putrid for most of the year, and today has been the worst of the lot.
Yep. Absolutely, as clear as day, our stoppage work has been dumb
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02-06-2019, 08:58 PM
#219
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R11 2019
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Have we placed too much faith in him based on a couple of nice attributes? He's been on the receiving end of some beatings this year
He's got a lot to learn and I'm not sure we have the right teachers
I hate to start by making excuses but he's just a kid. Are we are expecting too much of him in his early 20s to be dominating or even breaking even with experienced AFL ruckmen? Give him the benefits of a couple of more preseasons and I think he will be one of the best players in the comp.
Originally Posted by
Rocket Science
While we're at it replacing 'handball club' with 'haircut club' isn't yielding quite the same dividends.
'Tattoo club' isn't going so well either...
Originally Posted by
Rocket Science
Ha. Shuey beat four of us there.
The boys checked in for the week off a little early.
They are interstate. Who wouldn't go into holiday mode?
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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02-06-2019, 08:59 PM
#220
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R11 2019
We have copped three smashing this year and lost to the three bottom clubs, we aren’t going anywhere unless we make changes higher than the list.
Bring back the biff
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02-06-2019, 09:03 PM
#221
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R11 2019
We conceded 21 goals from only 52 inside 50s!
We had 20 more touches. Nearly broke even on clearances. Turnovers almost identical too.
Is it endeavour? Skill level? Or a bad game plan?
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02-06-2019, 09:03 PM
#222
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R11 2019
Originally Posted by
comrade
It's been stoppages where we've been pummelled today, not turnovers. Our midfield group has been putrid for most of the year, and today has been the worst of the lot.
Yep. In the first half when we were dominating general play, our stoppage work killed us when we should have been 3-4 goals up. Then after half time WC re-structured and picked us off on the turnover.
Whoever is our ruck and stoppage coach is doing a disgraceful job.
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02-06-2019, 09:04 PM
#223
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R11 2019
Originally Posted by
angelopetraglia
We conceded 21 goals from only 52 inside 50s!
We had 20 more touches. Nearly broke even on clearances. Turnovers almost identical too.
Is it endeavour? Skill level? Or a bad game plan?
Or too many free loaders in the team that think they can't be dropped.
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02-06-2019, 09:04 PM
#224
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R11 2019
Originally Posted by
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
I'm not sure about that. I think those unforced one's stand out more, because they are so cringeworthy. But as I write we just turned one over from Macrae just running and blindly kicking forward without much thought.
We try to be pretty and not play the percentages. Looks good when it comes off but our skill level is not Hawthorn like (during the three peat) and we can't pinpoint the ball. IN fact our skill level is atrocious. If we don't turnover they don't don't score like they do.
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02-06-2019, 09:05 PM
#225
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R11 2019
Originally Posted by
comrade
It's been stoppages where we've been pummelled today, not turnovers. Our midfield group has been putrid for most of the year, and today has been the worst of the lot.
We won the stoppage clearances 18-17