WB Game Day V West Coast R11 2019

[Rocket Science]

Re: English ... the kid doesn't deserve nearly as much heat as the coaches who decided a junior midfielder who experienced a growth spurt should be our #1 ruck option with all of ten games under his belt.

Then again, who do we have that English could've been a part-time understudy with?

Oh snap, list management strikes again.

[Eastdog]

Good solid 1st half
S**t 2nd half

The story of the game.

[Bullies]

We conceded 21 goals from only 52 inside 50s!

We had 20 more touches. Nearly broke even on clearances. Turnovers almost identical too.

Is it endeavour? Skill level? Or a bad game plan?

this is exactly why stats are over rated. You can read into them what you want but at the end we were smashed all over the ground.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

We won the stoppage clearances 18-17

Yep but that does not account for what happened post that. We faffed it.. They had 7 or 8 shots on goal more than us post that. They had more meaningful outcomes for their stoppage wins. That tends to mean we probably handballed it 30 cms post stoppage win.. and then turned it over. Whereas when they won the stoppage it was clear, and unopposed meaning they got a meaningful look at the scoreboard from the ensuing play.

[comrade]

We won the stoppage clearances 18-17

How many goals did it lead to for us and them?

[angelopetraglia]

How many goals did it lead to for us and them?

So it is not the ability to win the clearance. It's how clean the clearance win is or how we set up either in front of or behind the ball. They play a brutal efficient style of football. We play the opposite.

[Eastdog]

Inside 50 count

52-46 in their favour

Eagles 32 shots from 52 inside 50s
Bulldogs 24 shots from 46 inside 50s

[comrade]

So it is not the ability to win the clearance. It's how clean the clearance win is or how we set up either in front of or behind the ball. They play a brutal efficient style of football. We play the opposite.

Yeah. A scrambled handball out of a stoppage with an opponent on your hammer is a much different clearance than hitting it with pace, taking it cleanly and leaving your opponent flat footed. It helps the opposition when our mids aren't interested in defending the opposition or chasing them down when they do take possession.

[bornadog]

It helps the opposition when our mids aren't interested in defending the opposition or chasing them down when they do take possession.

WE have a midfield with a lack of pace - that is an issue.

[Twodogs]

We conceded 21 goals from only 52 inside 50s!

We had 20 more touches. Nearly broke even on clearances. Turnovers almost identical too.

Is it endeavour? Skill level? Or a bad game plan?

Skill level. It must burn when you walk off the ground knowing that you've given it a red hot go but when you should be 4-5 goals in front you are actually behind and you know that they are going to come hard after the break.

We try to be pretty and not play the percentages. Looks good when it comes off but our skill level is not Hawthorn like (during the three peat) and we can't pinpoint the ball. IN fact our skill level is atrocious. If we don't turnover they don't don't score like they do.

Shit kicking costs us again.

So it is not the ability to win the clearance. It's how clean the clearance win is or how we set up either in front of or behind the ball. They play a brutal efficient style of football. We play the opposite.

We play like millionaires. Which to be fair most of the blokes on our list would probably be by now but it's frustrating watching them play like it.

[Bullies]

WE have a midfield with a lack of pace - that is an issue.

How does Gowers play 25% of the game in the middle. Bevo has serious issues with his love child. He is not even VFL standard.

[bulldogtragic]

WE have a midfield with a lack of pace - that is an issue.

And we can't land a faster player like Shiel, Wingard, Cognilio, Impey etc. because they've seen us play footy like tonight over the passed three years and don't want to join us. While burst pace players like Stringer & Dahl are gone. We can't keep recruiting kids in big numbers, but maybe we don't have an option anymore.

[bornadog]

How does Gowers play 25% of the game in the middle. Bevo has serious issues with his love child. He is not even VFL standard.

If others are not performing, he throws him in - that is all I can think of.

[angelopetraglia]

How does Gowers play 25% of the game in the middle. Bevo has serious issues with his love child. He is not even VFL standard.

I thought Billy went OK today up forward. He is definitely not a mid. However he brings something different to our one dimensional forward line.

[GVGjr]

But they are an issue if you don't have the back up players, and we don't

It's about effort and development not injuries and inexperience and for the life of me I don't know why they are the first excuses offered up other than that they're convenient. Look at our worst results this season and it's more about how we played and the effort we displayed than it is about how many games of experience we assembled on the day

If the playing list isn't good enough then we need to cut into the list deeper, if the list isn't balanced correctly then use the trade period to address it but with doubts on the roles Boyd and Picken could play before the season and further doubts on Dickson and perhaps Morris did we really do enough to brace ourselves?

My argument is that we should have the players to back up a couple of injuries and poor form but the development of the playing list is the issue where we are lagging well behind