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    Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 13, Vs Carlton

    Welcome to the Always Right Match Committee Thread. The Match Committee threads has been named after long time WOOF member Always Right who tragically passed away in March 2018.

    If you were on the Western Bulldogs match committee what changes would you make after our Round 11 match against West Coast for our Round 13, 2019 match against Carlton at Marvel Stadium?

    For those new to these threads, please give a brief explanation for your changes ... this would add a lot of value to the discussion.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 13, Vs Carlton

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 13, Vs Carlton

    The mob that smacked us around and kicked over 100 points, something we don't do...

    I'm beyond caring at this point. The players by and large look disinterested no matter the ins or outs. It's shuffling deck chairs on the titanic. Something is happening to make talented athletes perform so poorly as a whole. Until we can address that as a club, and who might be behind it, the ins and outs are a moot point.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 13, Vs Carlton

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    The mob that smacked us around and kicked over 100 points, something we don't do...

    I'm beyond caring at this point. The players by and large look disinterested no matter the ins or outs. It's shuffling deck chairs on the titanic. Something is happening to make talented athletes perform so poorly as a whole. Until we can address that as a club, and who might be behind it, the ins and outs are a moot point.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 13, Vs Carlton

    What did we learn from the West Coast game that can be applied to give a better result in the next one?

    1. look at the last minute of play. McLean marks on the lead 45 metres from goal (on an angle). Walks back to 60 metres. Kicks inboard to a teammate 60 metres from goal. They walk back to 70 metres. They pass to someone 40 metres from goal but it is turned over.

    Two inside 50s and no shot at goal. Why? Because the first entry was dumb and should not have happened.

    The team needs to develop forward craft. Who can kick what and from where.

    2. Look at the match stats in the Age. One of West Coast’s top 10 possession getters had more handballs than kicks. Guess what it was for the Dogs. That’s the reason our backline gets overwhelmed, the kicking teams have better score lines.

    we had 50 more handballs than Geelong but they kicked 21-6 and we had 45 more than West Coast and they kicked 21-7.

    obviously some handball is great, but a lot of ours simply puts forwards and backs in poor situations.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 13, Vs Carlton

    Kicking multiple points is demoralising. We didn't deserve to let ourselves be beaten by that much. We are not that bad.

    Haven't really looked at the opposition for next week. But we need a bit of hardness and experence in the midfield. Love to see Jongy come in.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 13, Vs Carlton

    Out
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    Schache Lewis Young, Sweet Jong West

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 13, Vs Carlton

    Quote Originally Posted by westbulldog View Post
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    Schache was injured yesterday, but not sure the extent of it.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 13, Vs Carlton

    I haven't watched the game so can't say who should be dropped but it matters very little at this point. I can't see the axe being swung too hard as we don't yoyo players in and out of the team and persevere.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 13, Vs Carlton

    Has Macrae mentally checked out? He's a shadow of his former self.

    At halftime I had JJ as an out to make a statement, however he clearly responded to a bake at halftime.

    I'd put Gardner back, English forward, and put Trengove in the ruck. If Carlton get easy supply to Cripps they win, inside mid opponents can kill us (Cripps, Cunnington have done it and evn Gaff destroyed us for clearances yesterday).
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 13, Vs Carlton

    Quote Originally Posted by Mofra View Post
    Has Macrae mentally checked out? He's a shadow of his former self.

    At halftime I had JJ as an out to make a statement, however he clearly responded to a bake at halftime.

    I'd put Gardner back, English forward, and put Trengove in the ruck. If Carlton get easy supply to Cripps they win, inside mid opponents can kill us (Cripps, Cunnington have done it and evn Gaff destroyed us for clearances yesterday).
    Honestly I wouldn't be surprised to see Macrae following Dah's example from last year and request a trade to "freshen up". He looks frustrated by the chaotic nature of the team and random roles players play from week to week, and looks like he's just going through the motions until the season finishes. He's a player who's very strong on his views of where and how he plays his best footy, and likes stability, neither of which he's getting anymore. I can see him fielding offers where he can play as a permanent midfielder with a defined role in a team with some stability. I hope I'm wrong because he's close to my favourite player but he's playing like someone looking for the door.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 13, Vs Carlton

    Quote Originally Posted by Mofra View Post
    Has Macrae mentally checked out? He's a shadow of his former self.

    At halftime I had JJ as an out to make a statement, however he clearly responded to a bake at halftime.

    I'd put Gardner back, English forward, and put Trengove in the ruck. If Carlton get easy supply to Cripps they win, inside mid opponents can kill us (Cripps, Cunnington have done it and evn Gaff destroyed us for clearances yesterday).
    You had JJ out at half time as a statement?
    He made one awful mistake (although I could see what he was trying to do, the WCE player tread water rather than being drawn to JJ) - but otherwise, at half time I think JJ had 18 possessions and was going at 90% efficiency and cover more metres gained that anyone on the ground. He was breaking the lines and hitting targets and was our best on ground.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 13, Vs Carlton

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozza View Post
    You had JJ out at half time as a statement?
    I would have dropped Macrae after the last game against Carlton and said so on here (not that I got a lot of support for it at the time). Terrible body language and it has not gotten any better...yesterday it may have been the worst I have ever seen it.

    Maybe he is injured - if so, I wish the club would just tell us.

    As an aside, has Bontempelli played a worse game than he did yesterday? What is actually WRONG with these guys? Why does it seem as if they simply don't care? (I know that they do - and are suffering a lot more than we are - but it just LOOKS TERRIBLE). Gowers does stupid things and is frustrating, but at least (in his own misdirected ways) he seems as if he gives a @#$%.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 13, Vs Carlton

    Quote Originally Posted by mjp View Post
    I would have dropped Macrae after the last game against Carlton and said so on here (not that I got a lot of support for it at the time). Terrible body language and it has not gotten any better...yesterday it may have been the worst I have ever seen it.

    Maybe he is injured - if so, I wish the club would just tell us.

    As an aside, has Bontempelli played a worse game than he did yesterday? What is actually WRONG with these guys? Why does it seem as if they simply don't care? (I know that they do - and are suffering a lot more than we are - but it just LOOKS TERRIBLE). Gowers does stupid things and is frustrating, but at least (in his own misdirected ways) he seems as if he gives a @#$%.
    Is it a loss of confidence?
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 13, Vs Carlton

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Is it a loss of confidence?
    Defensive running isn't about confidence as much as it's about care and effort.
    Macrae just isn't getting to enough contests in any phase of the game in comparison to what he's capable of.
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