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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood

    Breaking News - with the weekend off from footy today, Toby McClean spotted getting some tips at his local skate park.
    "I just want to play as many games for the Dogs and be the best footballer I can be, Bevo said I won't be selected again until I can stay on my deck and perform an ollie."
    Toby was also heard to say, "If I can't nail this I don't know what I will do, possibly buy a board and try my luck at Bells."

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood

    Quote Originally Posted by mjp View Post
    How?

    We won every stat with the exception of clearances.
    We HAD more scoring shots. We lost by a kick...

    I just don't understand how you can say the selection of Dickson/Smith and the non-selection of Toby cost us the game. Dickson was fine - 20 touches and a couple of goals...what did he do wrong today?
    Agree with this.
    I've been as critical of Bevo as many on here about team selection and player positioning - but as I said in another thread, credit where credit is due - they put a game plan together that should have won us the game today, and only conversion cost us.

    I get it, that Grundy dominated the ruck, but the sum of all the parts was that Trengove was excellent in defence, so getting him to crash into Grundy a bit takes away from that part of the ground.

    The coaching was good today and a lot went well against one of the best sides in the competition.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    I said it on Thursday and I'll say it again but I think the MC got the selections right. R.Smith might not have performed liked we hoped but we had to play him between now and the end of the season and I'd be confident that he will play against Port next week. We absolutely need to play some of the fringe guys before the end of the season.
    My argument is that he's been tried and tested many times and this is his ceiling. I've got nothing against him, seems like a good kid and is dam good at VFL level but he has still not mastered the jump to AFL level. I think it's 1 and done for mine and try someone else on the fringe. Cavara? Porter? Lynch?

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Mo77 View Post
    My argument is that he's been tried and tested many times and this is his ceiling. I've got nothing against him, seems like a good kid and is dam good at VFL level but he has still not mastered the jump to AFL level. I think it's 1 and done for mine and try someone else on the fringe. Cavara? Porter? Lynch?
    Agreed, won't make it.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Mo77 View Post
    My argument is that he's been tried and tested many times and this is his ceiling. I've got nothing against him, seems like a good kid and is dam good at VFL level but he has still not mastered the jump to AFL level. I think it's 1 and done for mine and try someone else on the fringe. Cavara? Porter? Lynch?
    Then we should have delisted him at the end of the season. We kept him on the list however, because we apparently see something in him so I do believe we had to play him sooner than later

    I've always struggled to see why he has been maintained on the list but with Lynch and Greene not playing and Cavarra and Porter not in great form at least we gave Smith his best chance to come in with some form behind him
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Then we should have delisted him at the end of the season. We kept him on the list however, because we apparently see something in him so I do believe we had to play him sooner than later

    I've always struggled to see why he has been maintained on the list but with Lynch and Greene not playing and Cavarra and Porter not in great form at least we gave Smith his best chance to come in with some form behind him
    No problems in giving him a go, and maybe I am a bit harsh on him as he played well at VFL level and has only played 13 AFL games. At this stage, I can't see him succeeding. His two ACL's have slowed him down a bit and he doesn't have that leap he use to have.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Then we should have delisted him at the end of the season. We kept him on the list however, because we apparently see something in him so I do believe we had to play him sooner than later

    I've always struggled to see why he has been maintained on the list but with Lynch and Greene not playing and Cavarra and Porter not in great form at least we gave Smith his best chance to come in with some form behind him
    Probably should have been delisted, not sure why he was kept other than probably being in contract. We have so many other HBF's on the list and in the current team so I'm really not sure what role he could fill at senior level. I mean I get it, he's a listed player who's played well at VFL level so that's the measuring stick for others to work towards, completely understand that. I just don't see the point in bringing in him and/or Dureya when the positional needs are elsewhere. It's probably not where the game was one or lost but it would have been nice to have someone in there with a little more poise and cleaner with ball in hand.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Mo77 View Post
    Probably should have been delisted, not sure why he was kept other than probably being in contract. We have so many other HBF's on the list and in the current team so I'm really not sure what role he could fill at senior level. I mean I get it, he's a listed player who's played well at VFL level so that's the measuring stick for others to work towards, completely understand that. I just don't see the point in bringing in him and/or Dureya when the positional needs are elsewhere. It's probably not where the game was one or lost but it would have been nice to have someone in there with a little more poise and cleaner with ball in hand.
    Roarke hasn't played HBF this year. He's rotated between wing and defensive forward, deserves his call-up.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood

    Quote Originally Posted by Mofra View Post
    Roarke hasn't played HBF this year. He's rotated between wing and defensive forward, deserves his call-up.
    Got to fit them all in somewhere.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood

    I don't rate Roarke, he had potential prior to his two acls but they have really made it difficult for him now. However, we have tried him in a new role this season and he has performed well in the VFL over a decent period of time and earnt his call up, so I don't think it would be unjust for him to be given the opportunity to prove us wrong by being guaranteed 3-4 games, regardless of performance in the first two.

    He wasn't terrible yesterday, and i don't think he will make it, but if we deem him worthy of a list spot this season then he deserves the opportunity to prove himself when he has met everything we have asked of him in the VFL.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood

    Quote Originally Posted by soupaman View Post
    I don't rate Roarke, he had potential prior to his two acls but they have really made it difficult for him now. However, we have tried him in a new role this season and he has performed well in the VFL over a decent period of time and earnt his call up, so I don't think it would be unjust for him to be given the opportunity to prove us wrong by being guaranteed 3-4 games, regardless of performance in the first two.

    He wasn't terrible yesterday, and i don't think he will make it, but if we deem him worthy of a list spot this season then he deserves the opportunity to prove himself when he has met everything we have asked of him in the VFL.
    I really don't get the angst on the forum against Roarke Smith. For this game he effectively replaced Bailey Dale and he contributed much more than Dale had given in the previous weeks..
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog Joe View Post
    I really don't get the angst on the forum against Roarke Smith. For this game he effectively replaced Bailey Dale and he contributed much more than Dale had given in the previous weeks..
    For me its the "the deer in the head light look", he never seems to looks comfortable with ball in hand and wants to dish it of as quickly as possible whether its the right option or not.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood

    Quote Originally Posted by KT31 View Post
    For me its the "the deer in the head light look", he never seems to looks comfortable with ball in hand and wants to dish it of as quickly as possible whether its the right option or not.
    Does he lack confidence?
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood

    I think that's just how his face is.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood

    Quote Originally Posted by KT31 View Post
    For me its the "the deer in the head light look", he never seems to looks comfortable with ball in hand and wants to dish it of as quickly as possible whether its the right option or not.
    There was a chain of play in the middle of the ground which punches this point home. I think it was the 3rd, maybe the 4th quarter, I'm pretty sure we were rebounding and he hand passed behind his teammate got it back and did it again. Just panicked at a simple open passage of play sums him up pretty well. I don't like putting a player under the microscope and singling out one instance but it was bloody awful to watch.

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