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22-06-2019, 11:23 AM
#181
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
Roarke is not another HBF added to the team.
He has been playing well at Footscray and the reports indicate as a type of defensive forward. Last week I went to the Footscray game and he appeared to play wing half forward and was very creative.
He deserves hi spot.
Ok that's fine but the other ins Dureya and Richards. We lost a key midfielder in Libba and doesn't make sense to drop a guy who could fill that role or at least bring in someone else to add some midfield depth. Lipinski did well last week so I'm guessing he'll have to shoulder some bigger rotations through there which I still don't think he's suited to do.
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22-06-2019, 12:41 PM
#182
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
Ok that's fine but the other ins Dureya and Richards. We lost a key midfielder in Libba and doesn't make sense to drop a guy who could fill that role or at least bring in someone else to add some midfield depth. Lipinski did well last week so I'm guessing he'll have to shoulder some bigger rotations through there which I still don't think he's suited to do.
A strange time to drop Maclean with Libba missing. I would prefer to move Daniel with his ball getting ability into the midfield and play Richards in his rightful position in defence.
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22-06-2019, 01:34 PM
#183
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
Nuggety Back Pocket
A strange time to drop Maclean with Libba missing. I would prefer to move Daniel with his ball getting ability into the midfield and play Richards in his rightful position in defence.
We have about 10 HBF’s in the side so Richards will play where he’s put.. in more interested in his intensity around the ball as there’s been lots of short steps and half hearted attempts this season.
McLean being dropped is a poor reflection on our MC who were developing him into a very good mid and then plonked him up forward.
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22-06-2019, 02:05 PM
#184
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
Mantis
McLean being dropped is a poor reflection on our MC who were developing him into a very good mid and then plonked him up forward.
He has played most of his football with us in the forward line and went into the midfield last year out of necessity due to injuries. With Libba coming back this season, and Lipinski now proving he can play inside, Toby had to go back to the forward line as indicated in this article: https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-...to-attack-2019
Unfortunately he has been poor all season, and even when he has had stints in the middle, he has fumbled and not shown much.
It is up to him now to make his way back.
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22-06-2019, 05:30 PM
#185
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
Mantis
We have about 10 HBF’s in the side so Richards will play where he’s put.. in more interested in his intensity around the ball as there’s been lots of short steps and half hearted attempts this season.
McLean being dropped is a poor reflection on our MC who were developing him into a very good mid and then plonked him up forward.
Richards was a fine player in defence last year and should have been left there. You are right, we have simply recruited too many back line players of similar type which is hard to fathom.
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22-06-2019, 09:12 PM
#186
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Just have a feeling Le Young will be a late in, perfect week to play him with Reid in.
The Bench is humorous indeed.
Hayden Crozier, Taylor Duryea, Ed Richards, Roarke Smith.
Back flanker anyone?
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22-06-2019, 10:10 PM
#187
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
kruder
Just have a feeling Le Young will be a late in, perfect week to play him with Reid in.
The Bench is humorous indeed.
Hayden Crozier, Taylor Duryea, Ed Richards, Roarke Smith.
Back flanker anyone?
Back flankers all round!!!!!
You get a half back flanker, you get a half back flanker, everyone gets a half back flanker...
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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22-06-2019, 11:22 PM
#188
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
kruder
Just have a feeling Le Young will be a late in, perfect week to play him with Reid in.
The Bench is humorous indeed.
Hayden Crozier, Taylor Duryea, Ed Richards, Roarke Smith.
Back flanker anyone?
They can all play in multi positions. Who cares.
Richards and Roarke haven't played back the whole year and Suckling has been playing forward. Worked well last week, especially in the 3rd quarter when he stopped Carlton's momentum.
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23-06-2019, 12:47 AM
#189
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
I really hope Duryea has been brought in to stifle one of the Collingwood movers. If that's the case then I'm not too worried about having too many half backs flanker types.
As for Crozier he's a crucial part of our aerial defence and is used to spring our attack forward. And if the other two are being used or developed to be players other than half back flankers and have performed well in alternative roles at the lower level so I don't really see what the heartburn is all about.
We actually need to collectively acknowledge that we're developing and take a bit of a breath. I genuinely believe we're a good chance of winning tomorrow, and if we do we'll be six and seven - so with that in mind I wonder if we'll give the coaching staff/MC any credit for it and reflect on whether many of us actually believed we'd be at that position 13 games in.
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23-06-2019, 12:29 PM
#190
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by kruder View Post
Just have a feeling Le Young will be a late in, perfect week to play him with Reid in.
Lewis Young should have been in weeks ago and should be today. Rather sick of our Lilliputian backline being torched by team selection.
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23-06-2019, 12:40 PM
#191
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
bornadog
They can all play in multi positions. Who cares.
Richards and Roarke haven't played back the whole year and Suckling has been playing forward. Worked well last week, especially in the 3rd quarter when he stopped Carlton's momentum.
And there lies the issue with the Western Bulldogs, they all can play multiple positions who cares. How well can they play multiple positions? I thought you said playing mids as forwards was an issue?
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23-06-2019, 06:56 PM
#192
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
That's a pretty unfair post.
On the basis that you don't like the team lineup you infer that we, a professional sports club, selected someone because he's Bevo's skateboard buddy and has some plan that ends up with all his buddies in the team.
And then asserted that Mclean will leave us, because he's a victim of being played in the wrong position.
C'mon...you're better than that.
Yes, Mclean had a good year in the midfield last year. But with Libba coming back in, and Bailey Smith demanding selection our midfield unit has to become more flexible. And to be honest, its not as if this is a role foreign to Mclean; he's done it all bar last year.
To me it's clear he's broken some in-house, non-negotiables last week that has resulted in his demotion.
As for Dicko, he still kicked 2 goals last week and worked hard (if not noticeably).
Roarke has according to reports done well and deserves a chance.
I was hoping we'd bring Lewis Young in this week, but he's clearly in selectors thoughts (as is Mclean).
Macrae & Libba's egos have survived the ignomy of being dropped. I suspect Mclean will do similar and earn his spot back soon.
And I am more than happy to stand by my post. This game was lost at selection.
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23-06-2019, 08:33 PM
#193
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
Bullies
And I am more than happy to stand by my post. This game was lost at selection.
How?
We won every stat with the exception of clearances.
We HAD more scoring shots. We lost by a kick...
I just don't understand how you can say the selection of Dickson/Smith and the non-selection of Toby cost us the game. Dickson was fine - 20 touches and a couple of goals...what did he do wrong today?
What should I tell her? She's going to ask.
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23-06-2019, 08:44 PM
#194
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
I said it on Thursday and I'll say it again but I think the MC got the selections right. R.Smith might not have performed liked we hoped but we had to play him between now and the end of the season and I'd be confident that he will play against Port next week. We absolutely need to play some of the fringe guys before the end of the season.
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23-06-2019, 08:44 PM
#195
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
Bullies
And I am more than happy to stand by my post. This game was lost at selection.
Right, so you're happy to double down on asserting Bevo is more interested in picking a skateboard buddy, with a master plan of getting all his mates in the team?
If Mclean served up what he had done thus far this year he would not have made a jot of difference.
Richards & Schache were dropped, and they came back into the side and looked noticeably better than they were prior to being demoted.
Hopefully Tobe's does similar and comes back and makes an even better impression.