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    I seriously dont know

    how some of the people drawing a wage from our footy club can hold their heads up when they provide performance after performance after performance, season after season after season like this.


    Do they have no shame? I mean if I was getting hundreds of thousands to do a job I would at least make sure that I could do the basic fundamentals (and when we are talking footy that is kicking, marking and shooting at goal straight as a player and providing a gameplan that plays to our strengths as coaches) of that job. We are going backwards, not forwards.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    We still have to bottom out. It's not going to be fun this year at all. Premiership of elite kids, then followed by going lower on the ladder year, after year after, year since. Every chance if things continue next year then there's another Shocktober type event. I don't have many addictions, mainly this club, and I just wished it was more fun for more of the time. It doesn't make me nearly as happy as it could or should.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    We still have to bottom out. It's not going to be fun this year at all. Premiership of elite kids, then followed by going lower on the ladder year, after year after, year since. Every chance if things continue next year then there's another Shocktober type event. I don't have many addictions, mainly this club, and I just wished it was more fun for more of the time. It doesn't make me nearly as happy as it could or should.
    You expect an addiction to be fun? You and I probably have traditionally come at addiction from different angles but addictions are never a happy thing whether its caffeine or heroin. So you're right in that it hurts but that's what it is supposed to do.


    I still think we should have made the situation with Stringer (especially) and Dalhaus work the way we made it work with Tom Libba. We don't (and never have had) so many quality players that we can afford to pissing them up against the wall when they do come our way. We should have given Stringer the fright of his life, got some commitments about him being more professional and then bought him back into the group. Now Essendon are going to get the benefit of his ability, and it will come.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    We still have to bottom out. It's not going to be fun this year at all. Premiership of elite kids, then followed by going lower on the ladder year, after year after, year since. Every chance if things continue next year then there's another Shocktober type event. I don't have many addictions, mainly this club, and I just wished it was more fun for more of the time. It doesn't make me nearly as happy as it could or should.
    Deep down in my guts I'm readying myself for Bevo to walk at some stage of his own volition in much the same way Boyd has.

    I say this in all earnestness.
    BORDERLINE FLYING

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    Re: I seriously dont know

    It’s OK - we will re-sign the coaching group soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bulldogs Bite View Post
    It’s OK - we will re-sign the coaching group soon.
    Bevo is getting a new contract a year early. Good to know team performance isn't a KPI.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Bevo is getting a new contract a year early. Good to know team performance isn't a KPI.
    Absolutely laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bulldogs Bite View Post
    It’s OK - we will re-sign the coaching group soon.
    You have been banging on about coaching for 2 years, it gets tiresome. How about looking at the playing group. We have players that are just not good enough to be out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    You have been banging on about coaching for 2 years, it gets tiresome. How about looking at the playing group. We have players that are just not good enough to be out there.
    About time you actually open your eyes to what’s happening, you’re right I’ve been critical of them for 2 years and what’s changed? Nothing, but good to hear you’re still defending them.

    If I didn’t know any better I’d swear you’re a paid employee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    You have been banging on about coaching for 2 years, it gets tiresome. How about looking at the playing group. We have players that are just not good enough to be out there.
    And these players are chosen by, prepared by and instructed by whom?

    Oh yeah, it's the coaches...
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    And these players are chosen by, prepared by and instructed by whom?

    Oh yeah, it's the coaches...
    Coach can't kick it for them
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Coach can't kick it for them
    Seriously BAD? Bevo was a shit kick too but the players don't coach themselves. He relied on the coaches to make him a better player-in the same way our players should be able to rely on the coaches to make them better players. The coach is responsible for playing standards and to give the coaches a pass because they don't kick the ball is (with all due respect) one of those trite things that people say when they don't want to face up to uncomfortable facts. And one of those uncomfortable facts is that the coaching department is underperforming as badly, if not worse than the playing group.

    I don't want to be at the head of the queue with a pitchfork wanting to sack one of only two coaches to coach us to a flag in the last 94 years of AFL footy but we cant just continue to drift along in the manner we have or we wont have a club to follow at all.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Coach can't kick it for them

    The effort or lack of it was deplorable in the second half
    We should have lead at half time , but to fade like that is totally unacceptable

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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Coach can't kick it for them
    Can teach them how to kick properly though, it's the same people every time and they have such fundamental flaws in their kicking action for set shots it's not funny.

    Just got to keep it simple. Put your head over the ball, approach in a direct straight line, guide the ball down straight and don't lean back on kick.

    It's amazing that they can't do this. Mitch Wallis isn't a great kick of the football but he has a nice simple action when he's within 40metres of goal on set shots, and he would easily be our most accurate kick for goal because he usually follows the few simple points I listed above. Doesn't run around on stupid arcs (unless he's outside 40 because that is his limit!), has a reliable ball drop, keeps his head over the ball and doesn't lean back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    You have been banging on about coaching for 2 years, it gets tiresome. How about looking at the playing group. We have players that are just not good enough to be out there.
    People were banging on about the world being round for years too. They were right. Time doesn't make a fact wrong. That something as painfully obvious as our coaching group isn't being addressed needs to continue to be debated in my opinion whether it's tiresome or not. It's a huge problem and no one deserves a 'pass' for taking this club from premiers to lower on the ladder each year running for three years. Players and coaches, and fitness staff.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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