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22-07-2019, 11:44 AM
#271
Re: WB Game Day V St. Kilda R18 2019
Originally Posted by
BornInDroopSt'54
I think prior to the sacking there would be some issues, a general awareness of something amiss, in some cases even some resentments and definitely frustration from each player. When the coach goes there would be a sense of the elephant in the room being addressed and a chance at a free hit, a bit of a mulligan cos low expectations but knowing your team mates feel the shackles are off.
So the players are more relieved that the coach has gone and they have a new start with less pressure and players can play their natural game.
Agree with this. The way they surged forward on our turnovers represented some sort of footy freedom didn't it. Not afraid to make a mistake to be reviewed.
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22-07-2019, 11:47 AM
#272
Re: WB Game Day V St. Kilda R18 2019
Originally Posted by
BornInDroopSt'54
There is a moral imperative that both sides feel too. A brave man who lead the club and given his all has tragically had to step down and out.
There is a recognition of how life changing this is and that each individual in the team will show their respect with a superhuman effort. This puts the opposition off their game, their collective unconscious recognising the moral imperative, the truth of a team fighting for their lives.
Shane Lowry an Irishman just won the British Open, smashed it, played in Ireland for the first time for ages. Ben Crankshaw won the masters (beating Greg Norman) after his old loved coach died and cried for him after his last putt dropped. Players playing for something greater than themselves.
It's almost like we anticipated it and, ok this is very cynical and possibly ridiculous, gave ourselves an early out.
Well, they'll come out hard.... After that we can get them.
Horse. Had. Bolted.
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22-07-2019, 12:50 PM
#273
Re: WB Game Day V St. Kilda R18 2019
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
It's almost like we anticipated it and, ok this is very cynical and possibly ridiculous, gave ourselves an early out.
Well, they'll come out hard.... After that we can get them.
Horse. Had. Bolted.
Yup. Its like there's script in our heads, we can change it or ignore it but sometimes it bites you on the bum even though its just a script in your head, so is self inflicted.
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22-07-2019, 01:17 PM
#274
Re: WB Game Day V St. Kilda R18 2019
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
It's almost like we anticipated it and, ok this is very cynical and possibly ridiculous, gave ourselves an early out.
Well, they'll come out hard.... After that we can get them.
Horse. Had. Bolted.
I absolutely agree with your thinking. I know it's easy to be wise after the event but were words like this ever uttered in the days before the game: "Alright you blokes, they've sacked their coach and everyone expects them to react. What they don't expect is the whirlwind we are going to engulf them with when the ball is bounced, the intensity of our attack on them and the ball, the pressure they'll be under! We are going to be the ones first out of the stalls, we are going to be cracking in hard and taking the game away from them, we'll be the ones doing their new coach, and their club, a favour by exposing the weaknesses in their list. That's our mission. Go and complete it."
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22-07-2019, 01:17 PM
#275
Re: WB Game Day V St. Kilda R18 2019
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
It's almost like we anticipated it and, ok this is very cynical and possibly ridiculous, gave ourselves an early out.
Well, they'll come out hard.... After that we can get them.
Horse. Had. Bolted.
I absolutely agree with your thinking. I know it's easy to be wise after the event but were words like this ever uttered in the days before the game: "Alright you blokes, they've sacked their coach and everyone expects them to react. What they don't expect is the whirlwind we are going to engulf them with when the ball is bounced, the intensity of our attack on them and the ball, the pressure they'll be under! We are going to be the ones first out of the stalls, we are going to be cracking in hard and taking the game away from them, we'll be the ones doing their new coach, and their club, a favour by exposing the weaknesses in their list. That's our mission. Go and complete it."
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22-07-2019, 01:22 PM
#276
Re: WB Game Day V St. Kilda R18 2019
From a club and coaching point of view, the script must be identified (deconstructed) and repalced with a truer, better script with us countering the oppositions 'right to win' with our right to win. Just cos they sacked their coach does not give them a right to win even they though may believe it. The first quarter has to be massive intensity to stop their momentum and hurt them on the rebound
No fumbling or any mistake or weakness to make them think we think they have a right to win.
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22-07-2019, 01:25 PM
#277
Re: WB Game Day V St. Kilda R18 2019
Originally Posted by
merantau
I absolutely agree with your thinking. I know it's easy to be wise after the event but were words like this ever uttered in the days before the game: "Alright you blokes, they've sacked their coach and everyone expects them to react. What they don't expect is the whirlwind we are going to engulf them with when the ball is bounced, the intensity of our attack on them and the ball, the pressure they'll be under! We are going to be the ones first out of the stalls, we are going to be cracking in hard and taking the game away from them, we'll be the ones doing their new coach, and their club, a favour by exposing the weaknesses in their list. That's our mission. Go and complete it."
Yup a script is written for the game dont ignore it, its a real thing but we are going to be intense in tje first quarter to deny them. We are going to play as if they are West Coast and deny them their game, stifle them or attack all out. Must win first quarter.
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22-07-2019, 02:43 PM
#278
Re: WB Game Day V St. Kilda R18 2019
Did anyone notice we kicked 10 straight goals after half time.
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22-07-2019, 03:37 PM
#279
Re: WB Game Day V St. Kilda R18 2019
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Did anyone notice we kicked 10 straight goals after half time.
14.5 was our final score. We actually kicked straight and kicked a higher score than the past 3 weeks when we won but our defenisive pressure was where we were let down badly conceding 17.14.
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22-07-2019, 05:12 PM
#280
Re: WB Game Day V St. Kilda R18 2019
I think that in hindsight both Libba and Daniel should have come back through the reserves.They both seemed a little off the pace yesterday and in a game where small errrors can have big consequences that litttle bit off the pace was costly.
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22-07-2019, 05:30 PM
#281
Re: WB Game Day V St. Kilda R18 2019
Originally Posted by
FrediKanoute
I think that in hindsight both Libba and Daniel should have come back through the reserves.They both seemed a little off the pace yesterday and in a game where small errors can have big consequences that little bit off the pace was costly.
They did look under done. Williams could have stayed in, and perhaps West could have played his first game.
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22-07-2019, 06:21 PM
#282
Re: WB Game Day V St. Kilda R18 2019
Originally Posted by
bornadog
They did look under done. Williams could have stayed in, and perhaps West could have played his first game.
Bont was carrying an ankle too was in a moon boot earlier in week.
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22-07-2019, 06:23 PM
#283
Re: WB Game Day V St. Kilda R18 2019
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Bont was carrying an ankle too was in a moon boot earlier in week.
According to Bevo, he was fine - but you know they don't like to admit everything to the public.
I think they tagged him and that also effected our performance.
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23-07-2019, 03:35 PM
#284
Re: WB Game Day V St. Kilda R18 2019
The effort was there in the 2nd half but simply not in that 1st half which was real dissapointing with what was on the line. Simply could not match there aggressive game style early on.
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