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    Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?

    Great wins this season against sides like the Tigers and the Cats, and now this poo today.

    It's not the first time, either.

    Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?
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    Re: Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Rot View Post
    Great wins this season against sides like the Tigers and the Cats, and now this poo today.

    It's not the first time, either.

    Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?
    Because the players think effort and attention to detail with skills and defence is conditional upon who we are playing. The players also lack respect for some opponents and don't understand that every team in the AFL can make them suffer if they refuse to respect them.

    As I said in the game day thread this is an extremely unlikeable trait to have in a group of players.
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    Re: Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    Because the players think effort and attention to detail with skills and defence is conditional upon who we are playing. The players also lack respect for some opponents and don't understand that every team in the AFL can make them suffer if they refuse to respect them.

    As I said in the game day thread this is an extremely unlikeable trait to have in a group of players.
    I feel JJ, Dickson, Trengove and Cordy made some terrible errors in the first. That's a leadership issue at that age level.
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    Re: Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    Because the players think effort and attention to detail with skills and defence is conditional upon who we are playing. The players also lack respect for some opponents and don't understand that every team in the AFL can make them suffer if they refuse to respect them.

    As I said in the game day thread this is an extremely unlikeable trait to have in a group of players.
    Bit of a concerning trend. Once, maybe twice in a year? It can happen but 3 off the top of my head (Carlton, GC, Saints) is unforgivable

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    Re: Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bulldogs Bite View Post
    Bit of a concerning trend. Once, maybe twice in a year? It can happen but 3 off the top of my head (Carlton, GC, Saints) is unforgivable
    In each of those games we were jumped at the start, 6 goals, 5 goals and 6 goals. Then we decided, oh shit, we should be putting some effort into this.
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    Re: Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    In each of those games we were jumped at the start, 6 goals, 5 goals and 6 goals. Then we decided, oh shit, we should be putting some effort into this.
    I'd be 100% certain that Bevo would have made the players aware that the 3 teams were primed to come out with some aggression and yet we never really were up for the challenge. The things we can control like effort and attitude have failed us with obvious tests
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    Re: Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    In each of those games we were jumped at the start, 6 goals, 5 goals and 6 goals. Then we decided, oh shit, we should be putting some effort into this.
    "These blokes aren't the duds we thought they were. Maybe we should give them some respect? Oops, too late"
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    Re: Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?

    It was a terrible start for us today. We seemed to play catch up all day.
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    Re: Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eastdog View Post
    It was a terrible start for us today. We seemed to play catch up all day.
    So why do we start so poorly so often?
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    Re: Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Rot View Post
    So why do we start so poorly so often?
    To paraphrase Groucho Marx-If we knew that we wouldn't need the talcum powder.
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    Re: Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Rot View Post
    So why do we start so poorly so often?
    It’s a good question Dry Rot. Is it in the mind? I didn’t expect that 1st quarter after Dicko got that first goal. A lot of footy relies on confidence/momentum in games and when you don’t have that then you will get beat by a lot.
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    Re: Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?

    Winning the inside fifties again suggests our consistent point of failure is our execution into our 50 or our forward setup, we seem flakey in this area, we look great when we nail it but we dominated that 2nd qtr for nothing.

    Seems coachable.

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    Re: Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?

    Quote Originally Posted by marcov View Post
    Winning the inside fifties again suggests our consistent point of failure is our execution into our 50 or our forward setup, we seem flakey in this area, we look great when we nail it but we dominated that 2nd qtr for nothing.

    Seems coachable.
    This also proves that stats are a crock. Yes we can improve our execution but we were flogged all over the ground. Freo had more inside 50's against the Eagles the other week and got beaten by 90 points.

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    Re: Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullies View Post
    This also proves that stats are a crock. Yes we can improve our execution but we were flogged all over the ground. Freo had more inside 50's against the Eagles the other week and got beaten by 90 points.
    Yep, quality of inside 50s really matters. A bunch of throw ins on the 50m arc give you a congested mess but may count as 3-4 inside 50s.

    We are young so it is a contributing factor but not an excuse.
    I wonder if we targeted Duryea in the off season as we have had small forwards get ahold of us a few times this year. Walters, Lonie, etc can all do damage to us.
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    Re: Why is there such a gulf between our best and our worst?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullies View Post
    This also proves that stats are a crock. Yes we can improve our execution but we were flogged all over the ground. Freo had more inside 50's against the Eagles the other week and got beaten by 90 points.
    Once the Saints had a 7 goal lead they sat back and killed us on the counter. Stats without context is just useless.

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