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    A little something to ponder...

    This team smashed two Top 8 teams in two weeks, with goal runs of 21 & 12.

    Due to injury, Liberatore, Wallis, Daniel and English (today) missed. Take some time to ponder how to get them into the 22.

    Now ponder the clubs aggressive player acquisition strategy, that has as much as $2M to back up trading picks. Ponder landing Tomlinson/Keith, Tippa & Jack Martin (experienced, mature role players of much talent). Ponder how you fit them in with Liberatore, Wallis, Daniel & English.

    Ponder that we have a heap of kids still nowhere near their talent ceiling: Naughton, Le Young, Schache, English, Dunkley, Lippa, Richards, West, Smith etc. (all signed next year and far beyond). Then a solid group of kids and role players at the VFL level looking to make it themselves.

    After you've pondered the above, ponder what happens now and for some years if the 22 selected each week players with the consistently displayed effort, application and skill.

    Ponder.
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    Re: A little something to ponder...

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    This team smashed two Top 8 teams in two weeks, with goal runs of 21 & 12.

    Due to injury, Liberatore, Wallis, Daniel and English (today) missed. Take some time to ponder how to get them into the 22.

    Now ponder the clubs aggressive player acquisition strategy, that has as much as $2M to back up trading picks. Ponder landing Tomlinson/Keith, Tippa & Jack Martin (experienced, mature role players of much talent). Ponder how you fit them in with Liberatore, Wallis, Daniel & English.

    Ponder that we have a heap of kids still nowhere near their talent ceiling: Naughton, Le Young, Schache, English, Dunkley, Lippa, Richards, West, Smith etc. (all signed next year and far beyond). Then a solid group of kids and role players at the VFL level looking to make it themselves.

    After you've pondered the above, ponder what happens now and for some years if the 22 selected each week players with the consistently displayed effort, application and skill.

    Ponder.
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    Re: A little something to ponder...

    I thought about it and all I can say is that it is a very exiting pls d to be.

    That is why when people or the media are telling about trade rumours. We have no one in that conversation wanting to leave.

    With the efforts of Bont and Dunks we should hire a plain and fly the entire team to the states over the pre season
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    Re: A little something to ponder...

    Ponder the difference between perspectives from before and after the bye!

    Alas, our structural weaknesses will not improve unless we get at last one tall defender and some cover in the ruck. If we can manage to nail those two areas then the sky will be the limit.
    Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.

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    Re: A little something to ponder...

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    Ponder the difference between perspectives from before and after the bye!

    Alas, our structural weaknesses will not improve unless we get at last one tall defender and some cover in the ruck. If we can manage to nail those two areas then the sky will be the limit.
    If we get a key defender can Trengrove be the ruck cover?
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    Re: A little something to ponder...

    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    If we get a key defender can Trengrove be the ruck cover?
    Trengove is still our no 1 KPD. He's one of the best in the comp when it comes to one on ones, marginally behind McGovern. Massively underrated. Just lucky we have him to play him where needed.
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    Re: A little something to ponder...

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    Ponder the difference between perspectives from before and after the bye!
    It’s amazing what happens when Dunks isn’t rotting away in the forward line while Billy Gowers gets extended minutes in the centre.
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    Re: A little something to ponder...

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    It’s amazing what happens when Dunks isn’t rotting away in the forward line while Billy Gowers gets extended minutes in the centre.
    Strewth, is he *still* on the list?

    Seems like an eternity ago. I don't wanna go back.
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    Re: A little something to ponder...

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    It’s amazing what happens when Dunks isn’t rotting away in the forward line while Billy Gowers gets extended minutes in the centre.
    Dunks was playing midfield before the bye. He played forward in the first few rounds, with some midfield time.
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    Re: A little something to ponder...

    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    If we get a key defender can Trengrove be the ruck cover?
    Possibly, but I would think only for next year and year after that at a stretch?
    Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.

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    Re: A little something to ponder...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mofra View Post
    Trengove is still our no 1 KPD. He's one of the best in the comp when it comes to one on ones, marginally behind McGovern. Massively underrated. Just lucky we have him to play him where needed.
    I like him as a spare parts player but yes we underrate him, we could still do with another KP defender and a ruck man though
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    Re: A little something to ponder...

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    It’s amazing what happens when Dunks isn’t rotting away in the forward line while Billy Gowers gets extended minutes in the centre.
    Has this not been done to death already?

    There's much more to our turnaround than one positional change and Gowers being out of the side.
    Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.

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    Re: A little something to ponder...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Science View Post
    Strewth, is he *still* on the list?

    Seems like an eternity ago. I don't wanna go back.
    He's completely dropped off my radar, I wonder what his future holds. He will be sweating on Dickson retiring you'd think, and depending on how we trade might be considering if he's best suited elsewhere.
    Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.

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    Re: A little something to ponder...

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    Has this not been done to death already?

    There's much more to our turnaround than one positional change and Gowers being out of the side.
    That was just one example.
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    Re: A little something to ponder...

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    It’s amazing what happens when Dunks isn’t rotting away in the forward line while Billy Gowers gets extended minutes in the centre.
    I think we should acknowledge the adjustment the Match Committee made, rather than pan Dunkley playing forward.
    1. Dunks playing forward was a numbers game. We needed to fit a bunch of blokes in the squad and they all couldn't play significant minutes in the mids.
    2. Given above, I think the MC made a logical call to play Dunks and Mclean up forward in the knowledge they are best 22. Its not like the forward line was foreign territory for them both, given they'd performed more than admirably there in 2016.
    3. Fantastic that the MC adjusted their strategy when evidence over a number of games suggested it wasn't working.

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