Jack Martin

[Topdog]

Not in love with Martins stats, but also dont buy into the "he'll be better in a good team" narrative, he has hallmarks of being an A grade downhill skier. Having said that - I have extreme trust in our recruiting and list management team and am ok with a classy player as outside polish when we're going well.

Sorry just to be clear what hallmarks are these? Downhill skiers don't get over 4 tackles a game. And how exactly does one ski downhill at gold coast??

[mjp]

Jack is a football genius.

We should get him.

[ledge]

Do we know his personality and work rate outside of football ?
Is he an all round good bloke ?
Is he driven ?
Is he a natural leader ?
Apart from the football side of things I know nothing of these things with him and they are what are looked at when we are recruiting players.
If what the media are saying is true I would say he has a lot of these attributes.
Does anyone here have answers about him.

[GVGjr]

Jack is a football genius.

We should get him.

In a straight up deal with GC do you think Martin is worth our first round pick?

[GVGjr]

Not in love with Martins stats, but also dont buy into the "he'll be better in a good team" narrative, he has hallmarks of being an A grade downhill skier. Having said that - I have extreme trust in our recruiting and list management team and am ok with a classy player as outside polish when we're going well.

I'm of the belief that players of the talent of Martin will get better at a stronger club.
My only question of players we recruit is if they are coming for the right reasons and not just because of the money. Speculation that Carlton is his preffered destination but that we can pay more isn't great in my opinion. If he genuinely wants to play for us then we should go hard to make that happen

[Dancin' Douggy]

Jack showed great maturity, self sacrifice, courage and dedication as a young man pursuing his dream of being an AFL player.
He may thrive in the position of being looked up to as a role model to the younger indigenous kids we are planning to add to our list.

Jack also is a definite point of difference to our playing group, he adds a dimension we are currently lacking.

I'd be thrilled to get him down to the kennel.

[The Doctor]

Tom Browne reporting we are leading the race for Martin

[ledge]

Tom Browne reporting we are leading the race for Martin

And that leads to journos coming to conclusions like Dickson is a free agent and their could be a few clubs looking at him.
COULD being the important word, in other words the journo has no idea and is making it up as click bate.

[mjp]

Does anyone here have answers about him.

I can talk about him a bit - not from the past couple of years as I really haven't seen him much since 2015.

Do we know his personality and work rate outside of football ?
Is he an all round good bloke ?
Is he driven ?
Is he a natural leader ?

He is a very hard worker. He is well liked by his team-mates and has an 'old head' on his shoulders. He wouldn't like the losing too much and is a very prideful person. He is THE great, unrealised talent in the AFL today (with Callum Ah Chee not far behind him - but Jack is better than Cal).

We are talking about a genuine, first overall pick in the draft type talent. The other 3x pre-draft selections (two awarded the Giants, two awarded the Suns) were Crouch (Brad version), Jaeger O'Meara and Jesse Hogan. (Yes, 3x West Australians who ALL missed the National Champs in their 18th year). Pretty comfortable in saying Jack was more highly regarded that the other 3. He can seriously play. His idea of fun is salmon fishing off Broome - not 3am in a dodgey Gold Coast night club. He would be a great get and if the club pulls it off we will all sit back and thank the lord above they did.

[bulldogtragic]

And that leads to journos coming to conclusions like Dickson is a free agent and their could be a few clubs looking at him.
COULD being the important word, in other words the journo has no idea and is making it up as click bate.

Yes mainly I agree, but with a little asterisk. Their guess might be we land Martin & Bruce. So that opens up a squeeze on Dickson out of the club and he may want to keep playing but elsewhere. What level is their guess work, I don’t know, but Dickson chatter seems like a domino effect of bringing in two more forward. If we get them and another club offers him 2 years, good for Dicko.

[hujsh]

Agreed.

For me the pressure is a vital building block. Then it becomes a matter of the quality of his disposal and decision-making more generally. While this team might be different to 2016, both sides win when they swarm the opposition with so much pressure that they start missing the simplest of disposals because they're *%$ing themselves. So it sounds like Martin could fit right in.

If we pay that amount and get him, then we're investing in someone who has talent and work-rate, but who's been in a shit system. I like those odds. I'm also pretty happy with the likes of Crozier and Durea (and even Trengove though he can drive me crazy), so happy to back us in.

Plus he'll hopefully be someone that we can build a broader culture around, who can (among many other things), help mentor the other Indigenous players that we'll be recruiting.

I can talk about him a bit - not from the past couple of years as I really haven't seen him much since 2015.



He is a very hard worker. He is well liked by his team-mates and has an 'old head' on his shoulders. He wouldn't like the losing too much and is a very prideful person. He is THE great, unrealised talent in the AFL today (with Callum Ah Chee not far behind him - but Jack is better than Cal).

We are talking about a genuine, first overall pick in the draft type talent. The other 3x pre-draft selections (two awarded the Giants, two awarded the Suns) were Crouch (Brad version), Jaeger O'Meara and Jesse Hogan. (Yes, 3x West Australians who ALL missed the National Champs in their 18th year). Pretty comfortable in saying Jack was more highly regarded that the other 3. He can seriously play. His idea of fun is salmon fishing off Broome - not 3am in a dodgey Gold Coast night club. He would be a great get and if the club pulls it off we will all sit back and thank the lord above they did.

Well I'm sold now.

[Axe Man]

He is THE great, unrealised talent in the AFL today (with Callum Ah Chee not far behind him - but Jack is better than Cal).

Hey MJP, I asked for your thoughts last week on Ah Chee in another thread - you may have missed it. Could he fill a small forward role for us?

[bornadog]

Lets get him now. We need to impress him and as GVGjr says, not just with money, but the overall culture and environment of the Whitten Oval. Nail this one Sam.

[GVGjr]

I can talk about him a bit - not from the past couple of years as I really haven't seen him much since 2015.

He is a very hard worker. He is well liked by his team-mates and has an 'old head' on his shoulders. He wouldn't like the losing too much and is a very prideful person. He is THE great, unrealised talent in the AFL today (with Callum Ah Chee not far behind him - but Jack is better than Cal).

We are talking about a genuine, first overall pick in the draft type talent. The other 3x pre-draft selections (two awarded the Giants, two awarded the Suns) were Crouch (Brad version), Jaeger O'Meara and Jesse Hogan. (Yes, 3x West Australians who ALL missed the National Champs in their 18th year). Pretty comfortable in saying Jack was more highly regarded that the other 3. He can seriously play. His idea of fun is salmon fishing off Broome - not 3am in a dodgey Gold Coast night club. He would be a great get and if the club pulls it off we will all sit back and thank the lord above they did.

I hope I'm speaking for a the vast majority of our WOOF members is saying how privileged we are to have contributors like your good self (and quite a few others) providing us with first hand knowledge of the quality of players we have been discussing

Many thanks MJP, you add so much value to the discussions here.

[Grantysghost]

I can talk about him a bit - not from the past couple of years as I really haven't seen him much since 2015.



He is a very hard worker. He is well liked by his team-mates and has an 'old head' on his shoulders. He wouldn't like the losing too much and is a very prideful person. He is THE great, unrealised talent in the AFL today (with Callum Ah Chee not far behind him - but Jack is better than Cal).

We are talking about a genuine, first overall pick in the draft type talent. The other 3x pre-draft selections (two awarded the Giants, two awarded the Suns) were Crouch (Brad version), Jaeger O'Meara and Jesse Hogan. (Yes, 3x West Australians who ALL missed the National Champs in their 18th year). Pretty comfortable in saying Jack was more highly regarded that the other 3. He can seriously play. His idea of fun is salmon fishing off Broome - not 3am in a dodgey Gold Coast night club. He would be a great get and if the club pulls it off we will all sit back and thank the lord above they did.

Christ, now I'm excited. Let's do a whip around and get some off the books cash to make Jack a Bulldog!
Surely Sheridan homes could accidently build him a house?