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    Re: Jack Martin

    Thats pretty shocking by Carlton.

    Can they get him via PSD?

    Terry Wallace just said of Carlton "They promised the World and delivered an Atlas" hahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Yep, bad call. Should've picked us and given us 20 & you for 13.

    If GCS stick to drafting him in the psd. Then he has to go National Draft. I wonder who takes him and where?
    Perhaps pick 13 comes into play
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Perhaps pick 13 comes into play
    Factoring in Green, Henry and maybe Meade. Would Martin be ranked 16th in the draft?
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    I have no doubt we would have given over 13 so think at 16 or 17 it's a no brainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strebla View Post
    I have no doubt we would have given over 13 so think at 16 or 17 it's a no brainer.
    Totally agree
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    I'm not sure if this loophole exists, but it looks like it does. So none of these things are related.

    Martin cracks the shits and tells Carlton to *!*!*!*! off.
    GCS delist Jack Martin. They don't want him around.
    Jack Martin as a delisted free agent accepts a contract at the dogs. 5 X $700,000.
    Only after that..
    Unrelated the dogs do a draft points trade with GCS - Picks 13 & 53 for Picks 15, 78 & future 4th tied to Brisbane)
    GCS were happy to hand over pick 15 if they got a 2nd/3rd. Instead of pick 9, they have a slightly lower pick 13 & a 3rd. Good plan Z.

    Hmm.


    Edit: 2 Pick 1st round downgrade, 25 late pick downgrade. > Martin & 4th rounder > DVI= Pick 50. We needed to do this minor bump down the order this year to get those future points. What? We signed Jack Martin you say...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    I'm not sure if this loophole exists, but it looks like it does. So none of these things are related.

    Martin cracks the shits and tells Carlton to *!*!*!*! off.
    GCS delist Jack Martin. They don't want him around.
    Jack Martin as a delisted free agent accepts a contract at the dogs. 5 X $700,000.
    Only after that..
    Unrelated the dogs do a draft points trade with GCS - Picks 13 & 53 for Picks 15, 78 & future 4th tied to Brisbane)
    GCS were happy to hand over pick 15 if they got a 2nd/3rd. Instead of pick 9, they have a slightly lower pick 13 & a 3rd. Good plan Z.

    Hmm.


    Edit: 2 Pick 1st round downgrade, 25 late pick downgrade. > Martin & 4th rounder > DVI= Pick 50. We needed to do this minor bump down the order this year to get those future points. What? We signed Jack Martin you say...
    If we could convince him to join the doggies would this be an option. If he nominates for the draft can we just use pick 13 to get him seeing that we might have been prepared to use it to get him in the first place? Or does he go into the pre season draft only and not the national draft? If he is in the nation draft I doubt Melbourne would use pick 3 nor Carlton use pick 9 on him. If it's only the pre season draft he'd be gone before our pick. Or am I barking up the wrong tree here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ratsmac View Post
    If we could convince him to join the doggies would this be an option. If he nominates for the draft can we just use pick 13 to get him seeing that we might have been prepared to use it to get him in the first place? Or does he go into the pre season draft only and not the national draft? If he is in the nation draft I doubt Melbourne would use pick 3 nor Carlton use pick 9 on him. If it's only the pre season draft he'd be gone before our pick. Or am I barking up the wrong tree here?
    I just saw the answer to this in the proactive poaching thread.
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    Good to see the Suns having another look at drafting Jack Martin

    Carlton’s ability to pull of a pre-season trade heist for Jack Martin will hinge on talks between the silky half-forward and Suns coach Stuart Dew in coming days.

    Dew is expected to ask Martin whether there are circumstances in which he would play for the Suns again next year after the aborted trade between the Blues and Gold Coast.

    But if he is emphatic about his determination not to play for the Suns there is every chance Gold Coast will not re-draft him in the pre-season draft.

    Melbourne seems unlikely to draft a player who is adamant he will not play at the Demons, which means Carlton could swoop at pick 3.

    The Suns remain adamant their hard-ball stance — not accepting a future second and third-round pick from Carlton for Martin — will pay off in the long run.

    They want to make clear to clubs they will not accept their scraps or low-ball offers for players of Martin’s calibre and simply fold late in the trade period.

    But rivals have wondered why they didn’t accept that deal and use those picks to trade into a higher selection or upgrade existing first-round picks using the 2020 selections.

    In next year’s draft period there are so many father-son and academy players available early that clubs will be sure to want to trade in and out of early rounds to suit their purposes.

    Martin could put a hefty price on his head to scare off rivals, but it has emerged if he does that it would need to be for a deal of at least two years.

    That would mean Melbourne would at least consider his price, aware if they did pick him in the pre-season draft they would have him at the Demons for two full seasons.

    Meanwhile, Gold Coast will ramp up talks with star first-year tall Jack Lukosius in coming months after he returned from an overseas trip.

    The Suns pulled off a massive coup by securing Ben King on a two-year contract extension during the trade period, securing him through to 2022.

    They offered him a significant deal worth more than $500,000 in the third and fourth seasons, allowing the club four years to show him why the Victorian goalkicker should be a Sun for life.

    Adelaide will push hard for Lukosius in next year’s trade period if he remains unsigned, but he is open to considering an extension similar to King’s deal.
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    Jack Martin has named his terms. He has slapped a demand of $1 million next year and a five year deal. Curiously, the overall deal averages out to $600k a season. It's obviously designed to stop GC taking him for a year.

    IMO he shouldn't be allowed to dictate a sliding scale over 5 seasons (especially front ended) just an amount he wants to get paid on average each season. An absolute joke.

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/mar...11-p539f8.html
    Martin names terms for long-term deal to get him to Blues
    Jack Martin has nominated terms for a long-term contract of more than $3 million in the hope it will knock other suitors out of the race and land him at Carlton next year.

    The out-of-contract Gold Coast player has demanded a five-year deal – on more than $1 million next year – from any club that is to select him in the draft. A source indicated the total terms are in excess of $3 million for the five years.

    Martin lodged the contract terms on Monday morning with the AFL – the last day he had to take himself off the Gold Coast list and put himself up for the draft, nominating contract requirements, if he had any.

    It was open to Martin to nominate for the national draft but he has only put himself in for the pre-season draft.
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    Martin sought a trade to Carlton, but a deal was unable to be secured during the trade period. The Blues have pick three in the pre-season draft, so Martin has to get past the Gold Coast Suns and Melbourne in order to land at Princes Park.

    The Suns have threatened to re-draft Martin, but the terms he has placed on himself in the draft now might make that unlikely, though not inconceivable at an average of slightly more than $600,000 per year.

    The Demons are understood to have been unable to meet with Martin and it would be unlikely they would secure a player on such terms without having met with him beforehand. They have also previously indicated they would not be interested in recruiting a player that did not want to be at the club.
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    Do your dodgy thing AFEL, you know you want to help your GCS baby. Bring in immediate PSD and rookie draft pick trading tomorrow. We could cover that wage, we offered $100,000 a year more, so that's a bargain for us.

    Pick 13 & PSD Pick 12 - for - Pick 20 and PSD Pick 1.

    Everyone wins except Carlton.

    It won't happen at all. But imagine for a second it did...
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    Based on this article, we really do have an astute recruiting team
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    Not worth it
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    It’s a real shame we have a league where a player who has come nowhere near realising his potential - I would say fantastically underperformed - can dictate his own terms for a contract and club.

    Having said that, it’s within the rules and I do think if we were landing here loads would be licking their lips! Quite the paradox

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshMac View Post
    It’s a real shame we have a league where a player who has come nowhere near realising his potential - I would say fantastically underperformed - can dictate his own terms for a contract and club.

    Having said that, it’s within the rules and I do think if we were landing here loads would be licking their lips! Quite the paradox
    Good on him for trying.
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