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    3 things that you've learned, finals week one V GWS.

    I love that we get bonus weeks to share our thoughts.

    Tell us three things that you've learned about how the boys looked under finals pressure.
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    Re: 3 things that you've learned, finals week one V GWS.

    1. A year without Naughton is going to be hard if it is the ACL. Makes Josh Bruce more important.
    2. I can't believed we got smashed, rucked mids, wouldn't stop or slow Whitfield, and allowed them to beat us up.
    3. McLean, Bonts & Lippa all missed basic set shots. But we won't fix this for next year either.
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    Re: 3 things that you've learned, finals week one V GWS.

    1. A very poor decision not to play Trengrove today as a back up ruck man left us terribly exposed in the midfield
    2. We had too many poor players today with a lack of experience, class and pace being shown up
    3. Compared to GWS there is an urgent need to recruit more quality players

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    Re: 3 things that you've learned, finals week one V GWS.

    1. We were horribly out coached - a real blight on the coaches today.

    2. Still a spot for Libba in our side - we weren’t tough enough

    3. I’m not convinced we can play the likes of Hayes / West / Dale / Lloyd - not enough pressure and I’m worried 3 of these are
    ‘Home and away’ players. Too early to tell one West who really was lucky to play today

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    Re: 3 things that you've learned, finals week one V GWS.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bulldogs Bite View Post
    1. We were horribly out coached - a real blight on the coaches today.

    2. Still a spot for Libba in our side - we weren’t tough enough

    3. I’m not convinced we can play the likes of Hayes / West / Dale / Lloyd - not enough pressure and I’m worried 3 of these are
    ‘Home and away’ players. Too early to tell one West who really was lucky to play today
    GWS planned for us, took away our 1 wood (getting the ball to the outside) and we had no response. We tried a few things in the 2nd qtr which helped for 10min, but it was a short term fix... It was a big reality check for the entire group.

    And I agree on the last point.. bar West who is just a kid they all need things to be going our way to have an impact. Lloyd has had a good year, but it’s clear to see why he failed to cement a spot with Richmond as they improved.

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    Re: 3 things that you've learned, finals week one V GWS.

    I learned that being young is cool until a team decides to beat you up and you have no one to fight back.

    Also, we don’t have the best midfield in the AFL

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    Re: 3 things that you've learned, finals week one V GWS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    GWS planned for us, took away our 1 wood (getting the ball to the outside) and we had no response. We tried a few things in the 2nd qtr which helped for 10min, but it was a short term fix... It was a big reality check for the entire group.

    And I agree on the last point.. bar West who is just a kid they all need things to be going our way to have an impact. Lloyd has had a good year, but it’s clear to see why he failed to cement a spot with Richmond as they improved.
    Not only that, on the rare occasion we did manage to get it on the outside their pressure on our handball game was so intense we looped them up and made guys stand under them ready to be swamped by a hoard of Giants. Being overly handball happy is something we need to work on I think although Bevo was spruiking with pride staying the course on his game plan whilst others have deviated during the week so I expect it will remain our one wood as you properly put it.
    To be fair its worked well second half of season, may just need some tweaks in execution and personnel for upcoming finals.

    So 1. No coal face no chance.
    2. Handball club post 2016 maybe doesn't stand up to finals pressure
    3. Toby Greene is very unlikeable (had to put him in).
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    Re: 3 things that you've learned, finals week one V GWS.

    1. The Giants are a good team
    2. The Giants are a big bodied mature team
    3. The Giants will trouble sides deep into the finals

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    Re: 3 things that you've learned, finals week one V GWS.

    1. Losing to these pricks still hurts. We hurt them in round 22 and they responded like good teams do.

    2. Bevo disrespected GWS with the team selection and paid the price. We were too inexperienced and it showed. We probably still would of lost but not like that.

    3. Seeing our mids soundly beaten today was a bit of a shock. Wallis and Libba would of been handy to give a bit of physicality back.
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    Re: 3 things that you've learned, finals week one V GWS.

    1. When you go into a final you're better off with hard and experienced bodies rather than inexperienced ones on the periphery of the contest, especially if you're not winning at the source (not a MC issue, more so a personnel issue due to injuries and experience)

    2. There is definitely a spot for the likes of Libba and Wallis in this team, but who know if they'd have been selected if available

    3. Caleb Daniel would have been a lot better off half back than both Duryea and JJ with the ball if he was fit. They were dreadfully exposed and while I think they could do better than they did today, they made the argument for having Caleb there much stronger than it had been these past couple of weeks

    Lucky Number 4. The bye cooked us this time around, and benefited our opposition. Nothing will be said about it in the media, compared to how much WCE were mollycoddled after they came 6th and lost to us in 2016 as the form side. It did make a difference, but we needed to be stronger and more prepared for the uplift in capability of our opposition. I don't think we got ahead of ourselves, rather, we learned how much you can have your arses handed to you in an away final if you're not on your game, and hopefully that will be a good thing for us.
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    Re: 3 things that you've learned, finals week one V GWS.

    1 - Footy form can be fickle
    2 - We need some muscle and to have a rethink of our approach towards having players that take on a run with or tagging role.
    3 - Even after a crushing finals performance I remain very positive towards our chances next season.
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    Re: 3 things that you've learned, finals week one V GWS.

    1. We salvaged a little bit from what was looking like a catastrophic season. The profile of the 22 leaves us susceptible to performances like that. Coaches haven’t managed that risk very well at times and yesterday was an example.

    2. The Bob/Wood/Bevo cuddly leadership has its place, but we were bereft of ability to match the dirty footy they confronted us with. We need a capacity to summon some violence. 3 goals and a fight early in the third was the recipe for success.

    3. Wood played a very good, captain’s game. Proud of his finish to the season. He can hand over the captaincy if he wants but he showed his true colours when it counted.

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    Re: 3 things that you've learned, finals week one V GWS.

    1. There is a different set off rules for the Orange filth. They played nasty, dirty, filthy vicious footy.
    The umpires allowed them to get away with murder. The constant extra slams into the turf. The constant extra chokes to the necks of players lying down at stoppages. The extra forearm hits into the body and face of players being held down by two or 3 people over and over again at every stoppage.

    Kicks, knees, punches etc. All went unpunished.

    I predicted the Scum would overdo the fireworks. AND THEY DID!
    But the umpires let them. No other final I saw over the weekend had that amount of utter nastiness.
    The umpires could have sorted things out right from the start with some reversed decisions and 50's.
    But they allowed it to fester.

    If that was a suburban, country, or junior game it would NEVER be allowed. People would be jumping the fences.

    I hate to think that kids watching that game go home thinking that's how you play footy.

    SHAME SHAME SHAME.

    2. We went in too young. I was worried when I saw the team sheet.

    3. I no longer have a shred of nostalgic warmth left for Leon Cameron. He can ^^%%$#^ off.

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    Re: 3 things that you've learned, finals week one V GWS.

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    3. Caleb Daniel would have been a lot better off half back than both Duryea and JJ with the ball if he was fit. They were dreadfully exposed and while I think they could do better than they did today, they made the argument for having Caleb there much stronger than it had been these past couple of weeks
    No no G you're mistaken. Caleb Daniel is a bad player and we are better off with him not in the side. Or something like that?

    I learned that Bailey Dale is a contract year specialist. Oh no wait I already knew that and I'm so angry at myself for ceding to the idea of him being good. Bitterly disappointing games from him and Lloyd yesterday.

    The Giants did exactly what a few on here prognosticated and shook us up from the bounce, and we had no answer for it. We need Libba in the side.
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    Re: 3 things that you've learned, finals week one V GWS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Days View Post
    No no G you're mistaken. Caleb Daniel is a bad player and we are better off with him not in the side. Or something like that?

    I learned that Bailey Dale is a contract year specialist. Oh no wait I already knew that and I'm so angry at myself for ceding to the idea of him being good. Bitterly disappointing games from him and Lloyd yesterday.

    The Giants did exactly what a few on here prognosticated and shook us up from the bounce, and we had no answer for it. We need Libba in the side.
    Lol did you see our inside 50 count? And the nature of the way it entered? They beat us up everywhere, even JMacs 32 touches were always under pressure and entirely ineffective.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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