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    Re: Willie Rioli - banned substance

    PED or recreational fun stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    Has that club ever played by the rules?
    I doubt it. They always seem to have bigger bodies quicker than everyone else and we know they like to party so having help is not out of the ordinary.
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    So disappointed when I heard the news. I knew Willie personally and he was a shy, humble, polite and thankful young man from an amazingly tight knit and loving family. Hope he is ok.

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    This is as dodgy as. I suspect there should be a lot more to this. How did the sample get compromised?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    This is as dodgy as. I suspect there should be a lot more to this. How did the sample get compromised?
    It's all shades of dodgy. You would expect there's more than Willie involved and that opens a scary can of worms. Not sure why it's taken so long either; August 18 was the date.

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    According to Daniel Hartford could be The Whizzinator
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    I don't get why players think they need to take short cuts and cheat the system

    It just raises doubts now on so many other players
    If they know they've broken the rules, they'll try to conceal it to keep their career intact. The question is, how are they so stupid to think it will work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    I don't get why players think they need to take short cuts and cheat the system

    It just raises doubts now on so many other players
    It will come as no surprise to many posters that I have had my own problems in the past with substance abuse-heroin, speed, cannabis, if you can get addicted to it then it's a fair chance I've had a problem with it. Taking drugs makes no sense at all and the first square heads say is "But it doesn't make any sense" but it's not going to make sense. It doesn't even make any sense to us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Rot View Post
    PED or recreational fun stuff?
    Tainted urine sample.

    I have to go to a doctor and piss in a cup every month. The last time I did I noticed that they had put up a sign saying that they needed a gram's weight and that a gram weighs roughly the same as a paper clip. I had to laugh that they were taking the trouble to explain to a bunch of junkies how heavy a gram felt like in your hand. We are junkies! If there is one thing we do know it is exactly how much a gram feels like in the hand!! We are experts in it!!!
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    I have, yeah Ted, you big gobshite

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    At least his post retirement book now has a catchy tile:

    " Willie Rioli: Taking the Piss "
    It is so un-Australian to ban someone for taking the piss ... political correctness gone mad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    It's all shades of dodgy. You would expect there's more than Willie involved and that opens a scary can of worms. Not sure why it's taken so long either; August 18 was the date.
    Scary stuff to think an inspector who has to watch the player complete the sample and label it etc before sending it off to be tested has somehow managed to stuff it up
    My conspiracy tendencies can see the opportunity for a few people to be involved in this scam
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Scary stuff to think an inspector who has to watch the player complete the sample and label it etc before sending it off to be tested has somehow managed to stuff it up
    My conspiracy tendencies can see the opportunity for a few people to be involved in this scam
    The inspector or nurse or whoever tends to turn their back because the pressure to perform when they are standing there staring at you can make it a bit hard. So while they physically may be in the cubicle with you they may as well be standing outside.

    That's if they come with you in the first place. Usually they will hand you the cup inside a bag and you put it back in (surprisingly they aren't that keen to be touching jars that may have urine streaked down the outside of them) and you hand it back with the urine in the cup already inside the plastic bag.
    Have you been reading those Roddy Doyle books again, Dougal!?


    I have, yeah Ted, you big gobshite

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    The inspector or nurse or whoever tends to turn their back because the pressure to perform when they are standing there staring at you can make it a bit hard. So while they physically may be in the cubicle with you they may as well be standing outside.

    That's if they come with you in the first place. Usually they will hand you the cup inside a bag and you put it back in (surprisingly they aren't that keen to be touching jars that may have urine streaked down the outside of them) and you hand it back with the urine in the cup already inside the plastic bag.
    Wonder how they picked up irregularities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    The inspector or nurse or whoever tends to turn their back because the pressure to perform when they are standing there staring at you can make it a bit hard. So while they physically may be in the cubicle with you they may as well be standing outside.
    My understanding is they actually are not supposed to turn away during the sample collection process.
    I'm reading through the WADA details now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    Wonder how they picked up irregularities?
    Seinfeld, season 7, episode 15, covers the science of picking up urine irregularities quite well (leaving the hilarity to one side).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    Wonder how they picked up irregularities?
    The irregularity would have shown up in the first screening. I'm guessing (with no proof) that Willie has bought a supposedly clean sample off of somebody and has gotten ripped off.

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    My understanding is they actually are not supposed to turn away during the sample collection process.
    I'm reading through the WADA details now
    Yeah, nah, they aren't supposed to but a toilet cubicle is an unforgivably small spot for two people to fit into especially when one of them is supposed to be urinating into a cup. Usually what they do is watch you set up, leave while you actually do the deed then come back in before you have a chance to pull a swifty.
    Have you been reading those Roddy Doyle books again, Dougal!?


    I have, yeah Ted, you big gobshite

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