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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Maguinness shouldn't effect our pick 13 according to this article about the Hawks trying to obtain an additional first round pick:
    Thanks Axe. If it breaks that way, it makes Pick 13 even more important to hold and even better to use. That gives us 15th in the talent order after Henry & Green get matched bids. But Macguinness & Mead would most likely slip in before Brisbane's then Pick 23, so the Brisbane hypothetical is worse. It's then 15th in the talent order - for - around 25th & 33rd. Let's go use Pick 13 with a plan unless a stupidly outrageous offer comes our way.
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    GWS have traded Pick 6 and 2020 Rd 1 Pick to Adelaide for Pick 4.

    Must be desperate to move up ahead of Sydney who they expect to bid on Green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by divvydan View Post
    GWS have traded Pick 6 and 2020 Rd 1 Pick to Adelaide for Pick 4.

    Must be desperate to move up ahead of Sydney who they expect to bid on Green.
    Time for Melbourne to step up and bid on Green and really screw GWS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by divvydan View Post
    GWS have traded Pick 6 and 2020 Rd 1 Pick to Adelaide for Pick 4.

    Must be desperate to move up ahead of Sydney who they expect to bid on Green.
    this means GWS have traded picks 12 & 18 (what they gave up for pick 6) & 2020 1st round pick for pick 4.
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    GWS now have pick 4, 40, 59 and 60

    40 + 59 + 60 = 733 points, roughly pick 26.

    If Green gets bid on by the Swans at pick 5 s expected, that's 1,878 points - 20% discount = 1,502 points = a 769 deficit to carry into the 2020 draft. That's more than pick 25 by itself.

    That's huge. For example, that would push pick 10 back to pick 30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofra View Post
    GWS now have pick 4, 40, 59 and 60

    40 + 59 + 60 = 733 points, roughly pick 26.

    If Green gets bid on by the Swans at pick 5 s expected, that's 1,878 points - 20% discount = 1,502 points = a 769 deficit to carry into the 2020 draft. That's more than pick 25 by itself.

    That's huge. For example, that would push pick 10 back to pick 30.
    They don't care they are adding another 2 top 5 picks to their list.
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    Assuming Sydney nominate Green at #5, GWS are likely to go into 2020 around 700+points in deficit and without a first round pick. A mid-ranged 2nd round pick would cover it but they're basically shutting themselves out of this draft and next year's draft in order to get a top 5 pick and Greene this year. Melbourne bidding would completely destroy all their plans which must either mean that they're certain Melbourne won't bid on him, or they already offered the swap to Melbourne (6 + 2020 Rd 1 for 3) and Melbourne rejected it because they don't believe their option will be there at 6.

    Given Melbourne's midfield and the fact that they've already had to push Brayshaw out of the middle despite him coming 3rd in the brownlow, it seems very unlikely that they would have a great use for Green, at least relative to other clubs, so GWS will probably get away with it.

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    AFL.com.au are reporting that delisted Richmond player Jacob Townsend is likely to sign with Essendon

    He's a decent player but Essendon must feel that their midfield needs a bit of grunt
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    AFL.com.au are reporting that delisted Richmond player Jacob Townsend is likely to sign with Essendon

    He's a decent player but Essendon must feel that their midfield needs a bit of grunt
    Isn't he a medium sized forward?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Isn't he a medium sized forward?
    Remember how Stringer was going to be a midfielder with them but you are probably right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    AFL.com.au are reporting that delisted Richmond player Jacob Townsend is likely to sign with Essendon

    He's a decent player but Essendon must feel that their midfield needs a bit of grunt
    Disagree; he's a really low-impact, limited player and I can't see what on earth Essendon think he will add to their side besides free kicks against. If he plays any midfield minutes/games they'll be in a ton of trouble.
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    Just on Melbourne and potentially bidding on Greene, it's important to remember that GWS and Melbourne have history and Melbourne may owe GWS one. Back in 2012, Melbourne traded pick 3 to GWS as part of the mini-draft, in which they got Hogan and at the time, you just had to use your next pick to get the father-son. Melbourne had pick 4 and Viney was considered to be a potential top 3 pick but GWS chose not to nominate him, despite having the top 3 picks that year (picks 2 and 3 came in from mini-draft trades) and it was fairly widely assumed that it was a part of the deal made for the mini-draft picks. As a result, Melbourne was able to draft Viney at 26 and it's just their own fault they wasted 4 on Toumpas instead of taking one of Macrae/Stringer/Wines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Isn't he a medium sized forward?
    Most players think they are midfielders. Pretty sure he played midfield when GWS had a TAC Cup team and he came second in the B&F.

    He's a tough, dumb footballer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofra View Post
    Most players think they are midfielders. Pretty sure he played midfield when GWS had a TAC Cup team and he came second in the B&F.

    He's a tough, dumb footballer.
    Most non key position AFL players were midfielders at some stage at junior level since they were the best players, doens't make them midfielders at AFL level.

    Sounds like Essendon see him as a forward anyway:

    Essendon meets with delisted Richmond premiership hero Jacob Townsend


    Essendon has shown interest in ex-Richmond premiership forward Jacob Townsend as the Bombers seek to revamp their front six into a high-pressure unit full of adaptable targets.

    The Bombers have met with delisted Tiger Townsend, who played an exceptional pressure role as an accurate goalkicker in the 2017 premiership season.

    They can recruit him in next week’s rookie draft or offer him a summer at the club before securing him before the 2020 season.

    The decision to replace the adaptable Mitch Brown with Townsend would seem an eyebrow raiser given former Cat Brown has been a more reliable goalkicker.

    But Essendon wants to play a modern game plan under John Worsfold and his successor Ben Rutten next season which includes keeping the ball inside 50 more.

    The Dons will have access to Joe Daniher, Shaun McKernan and James Stewart as marking targets but mostly will want to play only one or two tall forwards.

    Then will be complemented by a fleet of mid-sized and small forwards who apply elite pressure, led by Anthony McDonald Tipungwuti, Jake Stringer, Orazio Fantasia and at times Devon Smith.

    Smith will be back from a knee injury which ruined his 2019 season after winning the best-and-fairest in his debut year, while questions remain over whether Daniher can get back to his best.

    Brown was a strong contested mark who kicked several three-goal hauls for Essendon this year, but was not renowned for his forward pressure.

    Essendon has secured former Richmond assistant coach Blake Caracella to govern the club’s attacking ball movement.

    Townsend was formerly a GWS player then kicked 11 goals in the last two home-and-away rounds of 2017 and held his spot in three finals.

    Brown has accepted Melbourne’s invitation to train with the Demons over summer alongside Harley Bennell as they consider him as a rookie.

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    Jake Stringer provides elite pressure???????????? Wow.

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