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    Re: Other club trade talk

    At this stage literally anything's preferable than making Windy Hole your chosen home. Even if you're the highly touted son of a gun.

    Father-son prospect quits footy to pursue NFL punting career


    Weren't we just treated to a slew of feelgood puff pieces on this bloke?
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    I think highly touted is pushing it. Essendon didn't nominate him as a father son last year or this, probably knew he wasn't getting drafted, has chosen to try something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by divvydan View Post
    I think highly touted is pushing it. Essendon didn't nominate him as a father son last year or this, probably knew he wasn't getting drafted, has chosen to try something else.
    Don't spoil the narrative!
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    I don't often agree with whispy Watson but he's right to be careful with St Kilda's recruiting.


    Tim Watson believes the jury is out on St Kilda’s dealings during the trade period.

    After a forgettable 2019 season, the Saints went about rejuvenating their list by securing five recruits as they look to climb the ladder next year under new full-time coach Brett Ratten.

    Brad Hill, Dougal Howard, Paddy Ryder, Zak Jones and Dan Butler all landed at Moorabbin with Josh Bruce and Jack Steven finding new homes at the Western Bulldogs and Geelong respectively.

    “Everybody has been waxing lyrically about how well St Kilda did in the trade period,” Watson told SEN Breakfast.

    “Brad Hill finished third in Freo’s best and fairest. Dougal Howard … didn’t finish anywhere, Paddy Ryder … didn’t finish anywhere, Dan Butler … didn’t finish anywhere, (Zak) Jones … didn’t finish in the top 10.

    “We have all jumped on board. It surprised me that none of these guys had finished better. I know Butler didn’t play a lot this year, Jones I thought would have been a top 10 player for Sydney … we knew that Dougal Howard finished the year playing in the twos.

    “Maybe we just need to pull back a little bit on how well they have recruited.”

    St Kilda is aiming for 50,000 members in 2020 on the back of their heavy recruitment drive.

    The Saints last played finals football in 2011.



    from https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/11/...a-recruitment/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post


    The Saints last played finals football in 2011.



    from https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/11/...a-recruitment/
    Ooof

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    I don't often agree with whispy Watson but he's right to be careful with St Kilda's recruiting.


    Tim Watson believes the jury is out on St Kilda’s dealings during the trade period.

    After a forgettable 2019 season, the Saints went about rejuvenating their list by securing five recruits as they look to climb the ladder next year under new full-time coach Brett Ratten.

    Brad Hill, Dougal Howard, Paddy Ryder, Zak Jones and Dan Butler all landed at Moorabbin with Josh Bruce and Jack Steven finding new homes at the Western Bulldogs and Geelong respectively.

    “Everybody has been waxing lyrically about how well St Kilda did in the trade period,” Watson told SEN Breakfast.

    “Brad Hill finished third in Freo’s best and fairest. Dougal Howard … didn’t finish anywhere, Paddy Ryder … didn’t finish anywhere, Dan Butler … didn’t finish anywhere, (Zak) Jones … didn’t finish in the top 10.

    “We have all jumped on board. It surprised me that none of these guys had finished better. I know Butler didn’t play a lot this year, Jones I thought would have been a top 10 player for Sydney … we knew that Dougal Howard finished the year playing in the twos.

    “Maybe we just need to pull back a little bit on how well they have recruited.”

    St Kilda is aiming for 50,000 members in 2020 on the back of their heavy recruitment drive.

    The Saints last played finals football in 2011.



    from https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/11/...a-recruitment/
    Hill is the best wing in the comp for mine, but it's a massive price to pay.
    Howard is a good get, gives them a KPD for 8+ years.

    Zac Jones is no upgrade on Newnes for mine, both have questionable disposal at pace.
    Marshall is pure quality, not sure Ryder is a help or hindrance.
    Butler has gone backwards at a rate of knots and he'd want Gresham and Billings to spend time in the middle otherwise he just doesn't play.

    I prefer our trade period - two clear positions of need, and we keep our first rounder.
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    Port and Bris have made a pick swap today

    Port give up 2020 Rd 1, 29, 71 to Brisbane for 16, 52, 55, 72.

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    Quote Originally Posted by divvydan View Post
    Port and Bris have made a pick swap today

    Port give up 2020 Rd 1, 29, 71 to Brisbane for 16, 52, 55, 72.
    Looks pretty good for both teams.

    Bris: 21, 29, 34, 48 and a future first (2 X 1sts and 2 X 3rds next year)
    Port: 12, 16, 18 & hoping Mead after. A quick glance, if Mead slides to Pick 21, they've got enough points after the discount. 4 picks inside 21 is very handy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by divvydan View Post
    Port and Bris have made a pick swap today

    Port give up 2020 Rd 1, 29, 71 to Brisbane for 16, 52, 55, 72.
    Interesting trade by both clubs, perhaps there is more to come
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Looks pretty good for both teams.

    Bris: 21, 29, 34, 48 and a future first (2 X 1sts and 2 X 3rds next year)
    Port: 12, 16, 18 & hoping Mead after. A quick glance, if Mead slides to Pick 21, they've got enough points after the discount. 4 picks inside 21 is very handy.
    Looks like Port are rebuilding. Adding this group together with Rozee, Butters & Duursma from last year is a solid core to build on for the future. It's a complete about face in terms of their recruiting stretegy of a couple of years ago when they went for senior experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    Looks like Port are rebuilding. Adding this group together with Rozee, Butters & Duursma from last year is a solid core to build on for the future. It's a complete about face in terms of their recruiting stretegy of a couple of years ago when they went for senior experience.
    Better late than never I guess.

    Breaking it down to DVI (assuming Port finish the same spot as this year):

    Port get 16 & 38 (But get Mead cheaply additionally)
    Bris get 10 & 29 (Patience should win the days for them as well)


    This seems to me to think Brisbane think Port will stay the same and probably fall down the ladder. While Port must think they won't fall down the ladder in a meaningful way. It's an interesting bet.
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    According to the betting markets Port are rated at about 15th or 16th in line for the flag next year. If Brisbane end up with a top 5 pick they will be massive winners.

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    Would we consider our first for Brisbane’s 21 & 29?
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    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    Would we consider our first for Brisbane’s 21 & 29?
    Pick 13 & Matched bids Greene, Henry & Macguinness = Pick 16 or 16th in the talent order.
    Picks 21 & 29 & Matched bids Greene, Henry, Macguinness & Mead = Picks 25 & 33 or 25th & 33rd in the talent order.

    So it's 16th in the talent order, for, 25th & 33rd. I'm not keen. We'd have to trade out Pick 53 for whatever we can it or it gets burned on upgrading La Young with just the three list vacancies. I'm happy where we are. There's several good players still available at our first pick. Any offer should be 'too good to refuse' is the way I feel about the players we could draft early. Sam fought Adelaide & St Kilda hard to keep it, we should use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Pick 13 & Matched bids Greene, Henry & Macguinness = Pick 16 or 16th in the talent order.
    Picks 21 & 29 & Matched bids Greene, Henry, Macguinness & Mead = Picks 25 & 33 or 25th & 33rd in the talent order.

    So it's 16th in the talent order, for, 25th & 33rd. I'm not keen. We'd have to trade out Pick 53 for whatever we can it or it gets burned on upgrading La Young with just the three list vacancies. I'm happy where we are. There's several good players still available at our first pick. Any offer should be 'too good to refuse' is the way I feel about the players we could draft early. Sam fought Adelaide & St Kilda hard to keep it, we should use it.
    Maguinness shouldn't effect our pick 13 according to this article about the Hawks trying to obtain an additional first round pick:

    The intention to find another first-round pick nonetheless signals that the Hawks don't forecast a bid on father-son Finn Maginness to come until, at the earliest, late in the first round and potentially early in the second round next week.

    Maginness, a midfielder who shone at the recent NAB AFL Draft Combine, isn't among the 16 players invited to attend the opening night of the draft.

    Rivals believe a bid may not come until early in the second round for the 18-year-old, with which Hawthorn would be able to match the bid with its next selection/s (it also holds No.30, 42 and 54).

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