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    The 2020 Rolling Draft Points 'Gap' Thread

    So we exchanged our 2nd and The Cows 3rd. This will obviously create a small 'gap' in points. The smaller the gap, the less we have given up and the better the trade gets.

    So I will keep tabs on this through next year. And I will start with some conservative assumptions, and not factoring in any free agency compo at the end of second round. Say the Western Bulldogs win one final, finishing 5th with better percentage. The Cows finishing between 14th or 15th (they finished 11th this year, are now rebuilding whilst losing head and other coaches, Keath, Greenwood, Betts, Jacobs, Ellis-Yolmen, Jenkins, Otten, Douglas).

    1. Dogs 5th (Pick 31), Cows 15th (Pick 40 - 177 draft points gap), Cows 14th (Pick 41 - 194 draft points gap)
    = 177 points is equivalent to Pick 58. 194 draft points equivalent to Pick 56.

    Say the dogs won two final finishing 4th.

    2. Dogs 4th (Pick 32), Cows 15th (Pick 40 - 155 draft points gap), Cows 14th (Pick 41 - 172 draft points gap)
    = 155 points is equivalent to Pick 60. 138 draft points equivalent to Pick 58.


    These are merely hypothetical right now and could widen or shorten if we do really well next year, or if Adelaide surprise everyone next year. But if we can keep the gap under 200 points (Pick 56) and hopefully trade a fringe player for something between 56-64 next year, then we most likely won't notice it. With a lot of clubs not rating the mid-to-late draft next year we might just score a fourth rounder for a fringe player and recover the 'gap'. So right now these are just to illustrate the gap and the want to root against Adelaide every game.


    Edit: Because we are all about the DVI next year, that makes the Keath trade Pick 45 & future Pick 56-60 on the above as it related to us.
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    Re: The 2020 Rolling Draft Points 'Gap' Thread

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    Re: The 2020 Rolling Draft Points 'Gap' Thread

    Currently giving them pick 20 for pick 44, so in the negative draft points against us is 550 draft points. Worth about pick 25.

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    Re: The 2020 Rolling Draft Points 'Gap' Thread

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    Re: The 2020 Rolling Draft Points 'Gap' Thread

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    Re: The 2020 Rolling Draft Points 'Gap' Thread

    Dumb question: if there are no more games played this year, then how is the 2020 draft order determined?
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    Re: The 2020 Rolling Draft Points 'Gap' Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Rot View Post
    Dumb question: if there are no more games played this year, then how is the 2020 draft order determined?
    Officially? No real method announced.

    How it'll happen? Probably a lottery I'd have to imagine. Maybe weighted lightly but again what's an actual fair way to do that? No idea what that means for future pick trades from previous years either.

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    Re: The 2020 Rolling Draft Points 'Gap' Thread

    They could use the same order as last year and tack round one on it to adjust it for this year.
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    Re: The 2020 Rolling Draft Points 'Gap' Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Rot View Post
    Dumb question: if there are no more games played this year, then how is the 2020 draft order determined?
    Quote Originally Posted by hujsh View Post
    Officially? No real method announced.

    How it'll happen? Probably a lottery I'd have to imagine. Maybe weighted lightly but again what's an actual fair way to do that? No idea what that means for future pick trades from previous years either.
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    They could use the same order as last year and tack round one on it to adjust it for this year.

    I think both of this options have some merit but the lottery might appeal to the AFL the most
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    Re: The 2020 Rolling Draft Points 'Gap' Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Hotdog60 View Post
    They could use the same order as last year and tack round one on it to adjust it for this year.
    That was mentioned as "the most likely scenario" when the possibility of a delayed or cancelled AFL system broke.

    My idea of just using the round 1 results seems far less likely...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofra View Post
    That was mentioned as "the most likely scenario" when the possibility of a delayed or cancelled AFL system broke.

    My idea of just using the round 1 results seems far less likely...

    But I really like that idea.
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    Re: The 2020 Rolling Draft Points 'Gap' Thread

    I saw an idea going around that clubs get automatic access to at least one of their NGA players. This seems the most fair and reasonable approach.
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    Re: The 2020 Rolling Draft Points 'Gap' Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Rot View Post
    Dumb question: if there are no more games played this year, then how is the 2020 draft order determined?
    Base it on the ladder positions after round 1. Is an accurate reflection of how the teams performed during the year for games that were available

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    Re: The 2020 Rolling Draft Points 'Gap' Thread

    I think if there is no draft this year then the indigenous portion of the NGA is D-O-N-E.

    If there is a 2020 draft, the rules will remain in place...
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    Re: The 2020 Rolling Draft Points 'Gap' Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by mjp View Post
    I think if there is no draft this year then the indigenous portion of the NGA is D-O-N-E.

    If there is a 2020 draft, the rules will remain in place...
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