Thanks Thanks:  6
Likes Likes:  13
Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst 1234
Results 46 to 58 of 58

Thread: Jesse Hogan

  1. #46
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Wherever the dogs are playing
    Posts
    60,862
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Jesse Hogan

    Quote Originally Posted by The Pie Man View Post
    Coming from a hub with (obviously) no cases, from a state with virtually no cases.....

    Rules are rules
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

  2. #47
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    East of the West
    Posts
    9,036
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Jesse Hogan

    I'm starting to think that maybe Jesse's a bit of an idiot.
    "It's over. It's all over."

  3. #48
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Warragul
    Posts
    9,529
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Jesse Hogan

    Quote Originally Posted by EasternWest View Post
    I'm starting to think that maybe Jesse's a bit of an idiot.
    What makes you say that?




  4. #49
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Wherever the dogs are playing
    Posts
    60,862
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Jesse Hogan

    Was a smart arse to Tom Boyd as well in a game carrying on about Tom's contract dollars.
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

  5. Likes Testekill liked this post
  6. #50
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    18,734
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Jesse Hogan

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Was a smart arse to Tom Boyd as well in a game carrying on about Tom's contract dollars.
    Well we all know how that turned out...…..
    Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.

  7. #51
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    27,890
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Jesse Hogan

    Quote Originally Posted by SquirrelGrip View Post
    That's pretty stiff. Wonder how he was dobbed in?
    Sounds like Jesse might have been at various times during the visit too.
    Have you been reading those Roddy Doyle books again, Dougal!?


    I have, yeah Ted, you big gobshite

  8. #52
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    3,546
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Jesse Hogan

    Funny how that golden generation of forwards has amounted to very little......Peter Wright, Jesse Hogan, Jake Stringer, Paddy McCartin, Patton......even Boyd, though he won a premiership, probably never reached his peak (not a criticism, just an observation)

  9. Likes Dry Rot liked this post
  10. #53
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    sydenham
    Posts
    12,590
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Jesse Hogan

    Quote Originally Posted by FrediKanoute View Post
    Funny how that golden generation of forwards has amounted to very little......Peter Wright, Jesse Hogan, Jake Stringer, Paddy McCartin, Patton......even Boyd, though he won a premiership, probably never reached his peak (not a criticism, just an observation)
    Stringer got a flag too
    Bring back the biff

  11. Likes bornadog liked this post
  12. #54
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Mulligan's Boogie-board
    Posts
    13,681
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Jesse Hogan

    Quote Originally Posted by FrediKanoute View Post
    Funny how that golden generation of forwards has amounted to very little......Peter Wright, Jesse Hogan, Jake Stringer, Paddy McCartin, Patton......even Boyd, though he won a premiership, probably never reached his peak (not a criticism, just an observation)
    You could almost put Hipwood in there too as someone who looked like a world beater but will be "very good" rather than a superstar he once promised to be.

    One generation afterwards look like absolute stars though - the King twins and Naughton all look in a hurry to be the best 3 KPFs in the game sooner rather than later.
    Then there's Lukosious who is playing back but is a sublime field kick for a big man and will clearly get better as he fills out. If he does go forward he & Ben King will be an incredible combo. Fogarty and Larkey are a rung below but look like they'll have long careers.
    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

  13. #55
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    E.J. Whitten Stand
    Posts
    17,162
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Jesse Hogan

    The golden generation was a false dawn before the coming of the true messiah...

    Jamarra.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

  14. Likes Twodogs liked this post
  15. #56
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Sunshine
    Posts
    6,245
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Jesse Hogan

    Quote Originally Posted by FrediKanoute View Post
    Funny how that golden generation of forwards has amounted to very little......Peter Wright, Jesse Hogan, Jake Stringer, Paddy McCartin, Patton......even Boyd, though he won a premiership, probably never reached his peak (not a criticism, just an observation)
    Of those names, Hogan and Stringer have shown the most at AFL level clearly...but haven't had the attitude to really cement themselves as a top player in the game. The others seem to be a case of recruiters getting carried away with big kids dominating the junior competitions.

  16. #57
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    E.J. Whitten Stand
    Posts
    17,162
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Jesse Hogan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozza View Post
    Of those names, Hogan and Stringer have shown the most at AFL level clearly...but haven't had the attitude to really cement themselves as a top player in the game. The others seem to be a case of recruiters getting carried away with big kids dominating the junior competitions.
    I definitely think we've seen the last of big chunky 195-2m+ kids getting picked at the top end of the draft.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

  17. #58
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    West of somewhere.
    Posts
    6,147
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Jesse Hogan

    Quote Originally Posted by FrediKanoute View Post
    Funny how that golden generation of forwards has amounted to very little......Peter Wright, Jesse Hogan, Jake Stringer, Paddy McCartin, Patton......even Boyd, though he won a premiership, probably never reached his peak (not a criticism, just an observation)
    Having coached in the pathway a bit, the ones who came through were:

    2011 - Patton was the big bad.
    2012 - All about the boy Daniher - but Hogan played as a 17 year old and was pretty handy.
    2013 - Tom Boyd all day - but injured in Perth (ankle). McCartin was a bottom-ager who looked the best of anyone. We'll never know on Hogan as he was drafted a year early (along with Jack Martin...and Jaeger O'Meara the year before...I'm not bitter). McCarthy was the late comer and had a couple of amazing games in the champs.**
    2014 - Was supposed to be McCartin but...well...diabetes was knocking him about and he didn't look the same player. 2m Peter was all the rage but was splitting time in the ruck and his mobility was being HEAVILY questioned.
    2015 - The one (well, one of the ones!) you missed. Josh Schache. Long left footer who I think set the gk record for the champs after beating up on the worst collection of 18year olds ever assembled (maybe a big call, but jeesh)...though to be fair Geelong did select a young kpp by the name of Ryan Gardner so it couldn't have been all bad!

    ** - McCarthy won the award for "Pulling the wool over the recruiters eyes" this year.

    This isn't to say he isn't talented (he is), just that every year a player does the following:
    - Appears on the scene 'LATE' - as in has never been involved in the pathway before. McCarthy was training with an amateur club and wasn't really even on the radar of his WAFL club in January.
    - Player is thrust to the forefront. In Cam's case, there was literally 'no-one else'...he kicked a few goals for SF and was in the state squad.
    - Player has a good but not 'unbelievable' champs.
    - Player immediately on impressing everyone, suffers season ending BUT non-'critical' injury. In Cam's case, broken leg in final game of champs (just before half time) cost him the rest of the season.

    This happens every year. With players they know - they look back. With players they don't, they project forward. (They = club recruiters). With McCarthy, they knew nothing so projected ahead with a 195cm mobile forward and...hey presto, 1st round pick.
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

  18. Likes Twodogs, Dry Rot, macca liked this post

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •