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Re: BT's Western Bulldogs List Management Guidebook - 2020 Edition
Wow, that is a mighty effort BT.
I can't believe the club has people on the payroll whose job it is to perform this kind of analysis, and you are doing it for love and on your own time, for our benefit. As GVGjr said, thanks is not enough. You are amazing.
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Re: BT's Western Bulldogs List Management Guidebook - 2020 Edition
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Murphy'sLore
Wow, that is a mighty effort BT.
I can't believe the club has people on the payroll whose job it is to perform this kind of analysis, and you are doing it for love and on your own time, for our benefit. As GVGjr said, thanks is not enough. You are amazing.
I try not to agree with GVGjr as a matter of policy but he's right there.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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Re: BT's Western Bulldogs List Management Guidebook - 2020 Edition
Originally Posted by
Murphy'sLore
Wow, that is a mighty effort BT.
I can't believe the club has people on the payroll whose job it is to perform this kind of analysis, and you are doing it for love and on your own time, for our benefit. As GVGjr said, thanks is not enough. You are amazing.
Thanks ML. That's very, very kind. (Being retired, but still young) I'd happily volunteer, any amount of my time for the club, if even to analyse any given take away coffee order for the list management team , but I wouldn't know where to begin to offer volunteering my time. So WOOF is the next best place!
But I offer thanks to everyone. A couple of years ago I decided to see if I could teach myself different aspects of list management by using woofers feedback. Posing many, many hypotheticals, digesting the AFL Rules, analysing our players and previous drafts, draft point trading etc, were put out by me and woofers gave me their honest and straight forward opinions which has help me to sharpen my critical list management thinking. The least I can do is pay it back with this guidebook, with the hope it's worth reading by the end!
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This is an EPIC post.
I have to admit, I really don't know exactly what to make of a lot of it (not because the info is wrong or I disagree) because there is just so much information...
Your effort and enthusiasm for this task is pretty remarkable mate.
What should I tell her? She's going to ask.
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Re: BT's Western Bulldogs List Management Guidebook - 2020 Edition
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Thanks ML. That's very, very kind. (Being retired, but still young) I'd happily volunteer, any amount of my time for the club, if even to analyse any given take away coffee order for the list management team
, but I wouldn't know where to begin to offer volunteering my time. So WOOF is the next best place!
But I offer thanks to everyone. A couple of years ago I decided to see if I could teach myself different aspects of list management by using woofers feedback. Posing many, many hypotheticals, digesting the AFL Rules, analysing our players and previous drafts, draft point trading etc, were put out by me and woofers gave me their honest and straight forward opinions which has help me to sharpen my critical list management thinking. The least I can do is pay it back with this guidebook, with the hope it's worth reading by the end!
You should send this to someone within the club, mate.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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Re: BT's Western Bulldogs List Management Guidebook - 2020 Edition
When I retire I was thinking of knitting and jigsaws!
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Re: BT's Western Bulldogs List Management Guidebook - 2020 Edition
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Murphy'sLore
When I retire I was thinking of knitting and jigsaws!
Ha! Retirement wasn't my idea, I'm still a few years from hitting 40yo and have been 'retired' for some time. It's interesting at customs or on other official forms when I put down 'retired' as my status. I'm over doing Masters Degrees. So I've found this a really interesting mental exercise to replace academia and law. My thoughts of knitting a list together and putting all the pieces together, like a jigsaw...
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What can I say other than WOW !!!
I have always loved your posts that analyse draft points and give scenarios on what we could do and how we can trade to get who we want etc. In fact, I try and spruik your teaching (often as my own ) and fail dismally.
As MJP said, this is EPIC. As I often do, I started reading the WOOF posts when I went to be last night at midnight ... my mistake was opening your thread; I couldn't put my phone down. When I finally turned my phone off at 2am I was amazed, informed and slightly daunted
Thank you just doesn't cut it !!
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This is an unbelievably thorough piece of work BT.
Thank you. I'll no doubt refer to this several times over the coming months; as no doubt, will many here.
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BT, I'll be honest, I have only skimmed it and was completely overawed by the sheer volume.
However, I look forward to reading it over the summer break and properly digesting it.
And chiming in with GVG, thanks just doesn't cut it. But thank you is all I've got.
Surely you could tap someone on the shoulder at VU and at the very least get an honorary Doctorate for your troubles. Your analysis would be far more useful and sensible than a David Beckham subject at the University of Staffordshire (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/694451.stm), or research into whether or not Spiderman could actually stick to walls (spoiler, no he can't https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/...cking-to-walls).
Wake me up when we get to heaven, let me sleep if we're going to hell
Good luck, for your sake I hope heaven and hell are really there, but I wouldn't hold my breath
And we all found heaven - 2016 Premiers!
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Re: BT's Western Bulldogs List Management Guidebook - 2020 Edition
Originally Posted by
Daughter of the West
BT, I'll be honest, I have only skimmed it and was completely overawed by the sheer volume.
However, I look forward to reading it over the summer break and properly digesting it.
And chiming in with GVG, thanks just doesn't cut it. But thank you is all I've got.
Surely you could tap someone on the shoulder at VU and at the very least get an honorary Doctorate for your troubles. Your analysis would be far more useful and sensible than a David Beckham subject at the University of Staffordshire (
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/694451.stm), or research into whether or not Spiderman could actually stick to walls (spoiler, no he can't
https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/...cking-to-walls).
Thanks DOTW,
Beckham & Spider-Man? Imagine living with a HECS Debt knowing that's what your debt was for... Ouch!
Your comments prompted me to put the full text document into a word counter for the first... Yep, nearly 12,000 words. I didn't think it was that many, but it is! My Masters research thesis was about 10,000-11,000 words. Now I know where the time since the Trade Period went. If only 'Western Bulldogs List Management' was a PhD topic fully covered the Federal Govt, I'd be set!
Until then, daydream about one day volunteering in any capacity at the club and maybe look at the AFLCA Professional Certificate in AFL List Management next year to raise my game for my next edition of this thread for 2021. Maybe I might now score some RPL's or have course assignments done already!
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Re: BT's Western Bulldogs List Management Guidebook - 2020 Edition
A remarkable and informative analysis imbued with a massive amount of thought and knowledge. It should be permanently carried around by the list manager. Congratulations.
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This is a great read and I look forward to watching games this year at both AFL and VFL level and seeing the games thru the prism of player and/or football club options you have presented here. Thank you.
Anyone can support a team that is winning, it takes no courage. But to stand behind a team, to defend a team when it is down and really needs you, that takes a lot of courage, so lets always be behind our boys and girls in red, white and blue.
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Smads57
This is a great read and I look forward to watching games this year at both AFL and VFL level and seeing the games thru the prism of player and/or football club options you have presented here. Thank you.
You're most welcome Smads, I hope it helps. But also thank you for bringing VFL games to us in real times and the work of giving us player reviews to help us with debate around players who are in form deserving promotion and how kids are developing. I know we all appreciate it, myself included.
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Re: BT's Western Bulldogs List Management Guidebook - 2020 Edition
Omg!!! I too have only skimmed this for now, but will definitely read when I get a good chance to take it all in. You SHOULD be working at the bulldogs BT. This is a phenomenal effort and a masterpiece in analysis writing from what I’ve looked at so far. As good as a lot of posters are on here with good, detailed discussion, you BT take it to another level, and I think most would agree with that.
Absolutely brilliant !!!!!!!
I will never see #16 the same!!
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