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    Re: 2020 draft watch

    Is this just a ploy, or is this kid serious?

    Projected first-round pick Archie Perkins has told interstate clubs he doesn't want to be drafted outside of Victoria.

    AFL is a national sport, so if you don';t want to be interstate, don't nominate
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Is this just a ploy, or is this kid serious?



    AFL is a national sport, so if you don';t want to be interstate, don't nominate
    Bailey Smith did the same thing.

    There was an interesting article recently about how Port spooked us into using our pick on Smith when we we planning on splitting the pick as we believed Bailey would slide with interstate teams having picks after ours.

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    How Port Adelaide pulled off bold plan to secure dynamic trio Connor Rozee, Zak Butters and Xavier Duursma in 2018 draft

    Jason Cripps only had 12 names on the piece of paper in front of him.

    Port Adelaide had found themselves in a unique position coming into the 2018 national draft after months of planning had resulted in their goal of having three first-round picks.

    You needed a PHD and a whiteboard to understand how Port’s list manager had pulled it off but now the final part of the plan had to be executed.

    It was ambitious in a number of ways but his recruiting team, led by Geoff Parker, had come up with 12 players they felt were worthy of going in the opening round.

    Port had picks 5, 10 and 15 and the decision was made that if the selected 12 were gone by the time of their third selection then they would take advantage of a new AFL rule of live trading on draft night.

    It had already been a busy day for the Port contingent when they settled into their seats in the super boxes at Marvel Stadium.

    They’d been forced to launch a misinformation campaign in order to save the “expected” draft order which would ensure a livewire from Bacchus Marsh named Zak Butters was available at their second selection.

    The Western Bulldogs had pick No.7 and were all over Bailey Smith, a gun midfielder from the Sandringham Dragons, who had made it known he didn’t want to move interstate.

    But Port had got wind of a plan for the Dogs to do a deal with the GWS Giants and slide down the draft because they were confident Smith’s stance had scared off the interstate clubs.

    The Giants already had the pick before Port which they were going to use on Bendigo midfielder Jye Caldwell at No.9 but if they gained another pick inside that then word was it had Butters name on it.

    So Port went to work with coach Ken Hinkley getting on the phone to Smith’s manager Paul Connors.

    It was a simple message: if the Dogs dropped down, then he’d take Smith and back in his club’s system to settle the kid in Adelaide.

    It was a bold move — Smith wasn’t really in their plans — but one they hoped forced the Dogs’ hand.

    Port had already instigated two separate trades with Fremantle and Brisbane to improve their draft position from No.11 to No.5.

    They knew they had to get to the pointy end of the draft with three South Australians in the top five rankings along with the highly rated King twins — Max and Ben — from Melbourne.

    Any one of them would do for Cripps but as he looked down at his piece of paper the name of a kid who’d starred with North Adelaide in the SANFL finals kept staring back at him.

    PLAN IN MOTION

    The first seed was sewn in Chad Wingard’s exit interview.

    The two-time All-Australian and best-and-fairest winner was told by Hinkley that he needed to improve his attitude around training.

    It was a shock to the system for Wingard. He left suddenly feeling unsure about his standing at Alberton Oval.

    Port had decided to get on the front foot given Wingard was coming out of contract the following year where he would become a free agent.

    If they moved on him now they could get into the early part of what they called a “jackpot” draft in 2018 rather than wait for a compensation pick in 12 months time.

    “To get something good you’ve got to give something good up,” was Cripps’ philosophy.

    Hawthorn coach Alistair Clarkson had previously publicly expressed his love for Wingard so Port happily steered the two together.

    They’d already orchestrated a separate plan to get another first-round pick which they pulled the trigger on early in trade week.

    Jared Polec and Jasper Pittard were both regulars in the Power team, more than handy foot soldiers but they weren’t seen as being a part of Port’s next premiership side.

    The shake-up was on and the pair were packaged up and sent to North Melbourne in exchange for pick No.11.

    Twenty-four hours later pick No.11 was headed to Fremantle in an inspired move by Cripps.

    The Dockers needed picks as they were trying to get in Jesse Hogan from Melbourne and Rory Lobb from the Giants.

    Port had plenty of second-round picks which were superfluous to requirements so they sent No.11, 23, 30 and 49 to Fremantle in exchange for pick No.6.

    Now it was a waiting game.

    Hawthorn were taking their time to come up with something acceptable. The asking price was a first-round pick and a quality player for Wingard but who that would be was taking Clarkson a little while to figure out.

    Ryan Burton was as shocked as anyone to answer the phone on his overseas holiday and find his coach on the line telling him he was no longer part of Hawthorn’s best 22.

    Port was more than happy with the scenario. Burton was an Adelaide boy whose partner was SA legend Bruce Abernethy’s daughter so returning home was an attractive option.

    Twelve months earlier he’d finished runner-up in the Rising Star Award behind Essendon’s Andrew McGrath with Port’s Sam Powell-Pepper third.

    On the final day of trade week the deal was done, Wingard and a future third round to Hawthorn in exchange for Burton, picks 15, 35 and a future fourth round.

    But Cripps wasn’t done yet.

    He was still hell bent on getting into the top five so he orchestrated a trade with Brisbane swapping pick 6, which he’d got from Fremantle six days earlier, for the Lions No.5.

    Midfielder Sam Mayes, who wanted to return home to Adelaide, was a part of the deal with Brisbane also getting pick No.35 and a future third round selection.

    Port had already lured ruckman Scott Lycett, fresh from a premiership with West Coast, back to Alberton — he’d played juniors there — as a restricted free agent on a lucrative five-year deal.

    They’d had some concerns about incumbent ruckman Paddy Ryder’s body and youngster Peter Ladhams was still raw.

    And Lycett wanted a shot at being the No.1 man given he was sitting behind one of the best in the business, Nic Naitanui.

    Another senior list spot had also been allocated to rookie Dan Houston who’d played all 22 games in 2018 and become a fixture in defence, a fact that amused Cripps.

    “He is a classic case of drafting a player to play what you think is his best position at AFL level and he hasn’t played one game there,” Cripps said of the former Camberwell Grammar key forward who’d the Port secured at pick No.45 in rookie draft a couple of years earlier.

    LATE DRAFT DRAMA

    Dynamic was the buzz word in the Port Adelaide camp.

    Their mission statement for the type of player they wanted to take in the next hour was dynamic matchwinners with good character.

    Connor Rozee had starred at under-16 level, he was named best player in the national championships to put himself high on every recruiter’s draft board.

    But throughout the national under-18 championships he’d been thrown around a bit in the SA team, playing forward and midfield.

    There were some brilliant moments but the domination of a couple of years earlier wasn’t there which threw up the theory that he may now be sliding out closer to 10 in the draft.

    That theory was short-lived as the SANFL finals series kicked into gear.

    The 18-year-old played across half-back for North Adelaide, which upset Norwood in the Grand Final.

    It was Rozee’s 12th senior game and his spring-heeled athleticism had recruiters again salivating.

    “He got elevated again just off the back of playing SANFL seniors and the finals series he had,” Cripps said.

    “He was very good off half-back but you could see he could play through the midfield down the track.”

    The Hinkley phone call had worked.

    There was no late shuffle at the top with Sam Walsh going to Carlton at No.1 and SA pair Jack Lukosius and Izak Rankine both going to Gold Coast as expected next.

    St Kilda were always going to take Max King at No.4 which left Port free to take Rozee as planned with their first selection.

    The next priority was the Western Jets forward Zak Butters who’d won the Port recruiting team over with a memorable house visit.

    He’d injured his shoulder in the pre-season but had put off having surgery until after the national championships which gave an insight into what made him tick.

    “To be able to play like he did with the shoulder, knowing he had that injury, you have to be mentally tough to do that,” Cripps said.

    “His vision and awareness to see things was something not many kids have and that ability to make the right decision and then execute. He had real class.”

    As the Port contingent drove down the driveway of the Butters’ property in Bacchus Marsh they were struck by the mini-oval with goal posts which had been built next to the house.

    Butters explained how he would spend all day and night kicking the football on the oval with his passion and love of the game overwhelming.

    The kid was a footy addict and when Cripps left he looked back through the front window of the house and smiled at what he saw.

    “I remember driving out and we looked back through the window and here he was, he still had his arm in a sling from the operation at this stage and he was throwing the footy up with his other hand while he was sitting on the couch,” Cripps said.

    “It was very clear his passion for the game and the strong drive and work ethic he had to get better.”

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    Re: 2020 draft watch

    Fox Footy Phantom:

    PICK 56: WESTERN BULLDOGS - JACK GINNIVAN


    Clubs: Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country


    Position: Medium Forward


    Size: 183cm/77kg


    Bio: Ginnivan is far from the finished product but might develop to be one of the better steals later in the draft. He relishes the contest and battle with his opponents, ducking and weaving around them when heading towards goal. He has the ability to hit the scoreboard and has a strong footy IQ. Ginnivanís birthday is on draft day and heíll be hoping his year ends with some good news.


    In the mix: A smaller forward would suit the Bulldogs who might consider Cody Raak with one of the last picks in the draft.
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    Re: 2020 draft watch

    Ginnivan would be a solid addition but I think it's a long shot we will pick him.

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    Re: 2020 draft watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Throughandthrough View Post
    It begins again. My player to watch in 2020 is Kaine Baldwin. A power forward who missed 2019 with an acl
    And missed again with a second acl

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    Re: 2020 draft watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Throughandthrough View Post
    And missed again with a second acl
    Shocking luck for the kid.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Throughandthrough View Post
    And missed again with a second acl
    For the love of god don't nominate a new player to watch in 2021!

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    Re: 2020 draft watch

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Fox Footy Phantom:

    PICK 56: WESTERN BULLDOGS - JACK GINNIVAN


    Clubs: Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country


    Position: Medium Forward


    Size: 183cm/77kg


    Bio: Ginnivan is far from the finished product but might develop to be one of the better steals later in the draft. He relishes the contest and battle with his opponents, ducking and weaving around them when heading towards goal. He has the ability to hit the scoreboard and has a strong footy IQ. Ginnivan’s birthday is on draft day and he’ll be hoping his year ends with some good news.


    In the mix: A smaller forward would suit the Bulldogs who might consider Cody Raak with one of the last picks in the draft.
    Is he originally from Castlemaine? I knew a family called Ginnivan in Castlemaine when i was a kid.
    Bright eyed and bushy tailed at least for another hour

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    Re: 2020 draft watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    Is he originally from Castlemaine? I knew a family called Ginnivan in Castlemaine when i was a kid.
    Sounds like the first line of a Limerick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    Is he originally from Castlemaine? I knew a family called Ginnivan in Castlemaine when i was a kid.
    Yes. His Dad's name is Craig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    Is he originally from Castlemaine? I knew a family called Ginnivan in Castlemaine when i was a kid.
    From Newstead I think so close enough

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