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    Three things I've learned R1 V Collingwood

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    Re: Three things I've learned R1 V Collingwood

    1. Not sure what the MC we're thinking, what the players were giving or what the coach was doing to turn things around.
    2. Cordy as our genuine FB and kick out specialist to centre our defence around. We are setting him to quit the game citing 'losing his passion to play'.
    3. Lack of effort, desire, execution in an actual game is hard to accept. It's just a small one, but it's a small step back after bringing in Bruce & Keath after a strong back half of 2019. Lucky to lose by the margin we have.

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    Re: Three things I've learned R1 V Collingwood

    1. Keath is/will be a good addition, but he's not the primary thing our defense needed, and Gardner can't be expected to step up and fill that role in his 3rd game- if ever. That's on our recruiting and match committee
    2. Our mids - we've thought they're up there as an upper echelon unit. Nope.
    3. Bont is human. It's taken 6 years, but he's just served up a non AFL level performance for 4 Qtrs. WOW!

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    Re: Three things I've learned R1 V Collingwood

    1. The value of Libba cannot be measured in ability alone (although he is extremely talented). He is heart and soul, will always fly the flag and will never be a meek and mild presence
    2. Bailey Smith sits very comfortably alongside our 'big 3' mids and will make it the 'big 4' by the end of the season
    3. We learnt absolutely nothing from the valuable lesson GWS gave to us in the EF. Instead other teams learnt lessons on how to beat us.
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    Re: Three things I've learned R1 V Collingwood

    Going to try the positives this season:

    1. Keath was fantastic, played deep and high and looks like a trade steal
    2. Cavarras goal was a great moment. He looks explosive off a stand still and his tackling looked great.

    That’s all I have...

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    Re: Three things I've learned R1 V Collingwood

    1: Like many have said Keath looks to be a very good pick up and battle well on the night.
    2: English is 23 and how long does it take to develop when your a ruckman, I think his still a few years off.
    3: Smith doesn't look like a player who lets himself get the 2 year blues.
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    Re: Three things I've learned R1 V Collingwood

    1. Bruce drops his head and stops chasing if things aren't going our way. I give him a reprieve because he was starved of opportunity, but his body language and second efforts were shit. Keep your feet and chase. This isn't piss weak St Kilda mate. Get to work.

    2. We've made a mistake extending Bevo to the degree we did. He should have been sacked a while back. If that's a taste of what we'll continue to dish up... and he can't close this gap between completely uncompetitive when we're off, to brilliant when we're on, I can't see a future for him. One trick pony. Too stubborn. Bat shit crazy. Why can't we arrest the bleeding when we are down? Our games have a very linear flow from MC, to first bounce to final siren. If it's looks bad early, it gets worse. If it looks good, we kick on.

    I'm not being entirely rational here but I want to break this belief that the bloke has an infinite cache of credits in the bank due to the flag that wagged. They're spent. All of them. No more excuses. No more benefit of the doubt. Just bloody perform.

    3. My mood was always going to break due to work related, pandemic stress. I'm sad the Club, through that effort are now the receptacle for my anger and frustration.

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    Re: Three things I've learned R1 V Collingwood

    1. Having a go at the coach is premature - again
    2. Keath a great acquistion
    3. Smith is going to be special

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    Re: Three things I've learned R1 V Collingwood

    1 - Based on the performance against Collingwood hearing that we would use the debacle of the GWS final as motivation over the summer for the 2020 season was just a statement and not backed up by actions. We can use the game against Collingwood now as motivation against Carlton.
    2 - Our match committee don't appear to have learned by last years failures and subsequent successes. We seem determined to again learn the hard way.
    3 - With the ability to play on with our kick outs we must give the ball to Williams, Daniel and Suckling more.
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    Re: Three things I've learned R1 V Collingwood

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    3 - With the ability to play on with our kick outs we must give the ball to Williams, Daniel and Suckling more.
    I really think Suckling must play in the backline and also take the kickouts. I don't seem him as a forward, or as a wing.
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    Re: Three things I've learned R1 V Collingwood

    I thought we learnt the lesson of playing Suckling forward. Every time he played forward last year he was shocking.

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    Re: Three things I've learned R1 V Collingwood

    1. Our last 2 games (GWS, Collingwood) are not us and is embarrassing. I know we are much better than that and I'm sure they do too. Can't rest on your laurels boys. Luckily there plenty of time to fix it.

    2. English needs to learn how to get aggressive and competitive. He looked spooked from the first bounce. Fair enough Grundy is a beast but get some body on him around the contest wouldn't hurt.

    3. Our mids had their arse handed to them without much of a fight. That's new. They would normally try make it difficult for their opponents but they didn't last night. Collingwood took the ball away from the contest with too much ease with little pressure.
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    Re: Three things I've learned R1 V Collingwood

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    1. Having a go at the coach is premature - again
    Is it though? How many seasons have we come into a season with baffling team selections and half baked gameplans. To his credit we usually simplifyit be half way through the season and perform better as a result, but it is hardly unreasonable to be critical of yet another dumb start to a season from the coaching box.
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    Re: Three things I've learned R1 V Collingwood

    Quote Originally Posted by soupaman View Post
    Is it though? How many seasons have we come into a season with baffling team selections and half baked gameplans. To his credit we usually simplifyit be half way through the season and perform better as a result, but it is hardly unreasonable to be critical of yet another dumb start to a season from the coaching box.
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    Re: Three things I've learned R1 V Collingwood

    Quote Originally Posted by ratsmac View Post
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    2. English needs to learn how to get aggressive and competitive.

    3. Our mids had their arse handed to them without much of a fight. That's new. They would normally try make it difficult for their opponents but they didn't last night. Collingwood took the ball away from the contest with too much ease with little pressure.
    English should be shown the video of how Grundy rucked against him, and then trained to do the same thing.

    Grundy hits the opponent’S body just before the ball arrives. he remains balanced and in the second or two that English took to compensate Grundy was able to palm the ball to someone in the designated position. Grundy then ran to a backup spot to make another option while our midfielders were trying to follow the ball.

    To his credit English tried to counter This by jumping higher and earlier but lacked control if he hit the ball. On a few occasions I saw the ball go to Collingwood players who were on their own, their opponents setting up for a losing ruck.

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