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Re: The Moment, Rnd 1 2020 vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
bornadog
We can't have him as the sole ruckman in a team supported by Young, Bruce, or even Naughton. We must put Trengove in as the support and help Tim.
As for Cox, they were weren't up against each other too many times, so I am not worried about that.
Where does Trengove play when he’s not rucking?
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Re: The Moment, Rnd 1 2020 vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
Mantis
Where does Trengove play when he’s not rucking?
Select Trengove as ruck and English as CHF/2nd ruck. Let English perfect his talent sensibly.
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Re: The Moment, Rnd 1 2020 vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
Danjul
Select Trengove as ruck and English as CHF/2nd ruck. Let English perfect his talent sensibly.
Agree with this. Trengrove as he has proved is far more experienced and has proved to be capable to compete with the quality ruck men like Grundy. Trengrove is also a better key defender than Keath with 150 games with PA compared to Keath’s 50 games in 6 years with the Crows. English has the skill to play forward and used as a back up ruck man.
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Re: The Moment, Rnd 1 2020 vs Collingwood
Why can't Trengove give us a dose of what Ben Hudson did to decent effect? With an ability to play back as required.
Otherwise WTF were we thinking recruiting him in the first place? As bait for Wingard?
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Re: The Moment, Rnd 1 2020 vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
Rocket Science
Why can't Trengove give us a dose of what Ben Hudson did to decent effect? With an ability to play back as required.
Otherwise WTF were we thinking recruiting him in the first place? As bait for Wingard?
On $400k+ per year, now out of favour despite having one of the better one on one % in the comp as a defender?
Maybe he's down on form but he hasn't had a look in and given Gardner's selection, we are obviously ok with playing a lockdown tall defender in the side (and Keath is not that).
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Re: The Moment, Rnd 1 2020 vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
Mofra
On $400k+ per year, now out of favour despite having one of the better one on one % in the comp as a defender?
Maybe he's down on form but he hasn't had a look in and given Gardner's selection, we are obviously ok with playing a lockdown tall defender in the side (and Keath is not that).
He looked good in the practice game. It's not necessarily an issue with form.
I suspect he doesn't provide the run that Bevo wants
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Re: The Moment, Rnd 1 2020 vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
He looked good in the practice game. It's not necessarily an issue with form.
I suspect he doesn't provide the run that Bevo wants
Players like Jackson who are out of contract at the end of the season and hugely out of favour are in a tough spot.
Edit : Maybe he signed for four.
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Re: The Moment, Rnd 1 2020 vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Players like Jackson who are out of contract at the end of the season and hugely out of favour are in a tough spot.
Edit : Maybe he signed for four.
Contract runs out this year
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Re: The Moment, Rnd 1 2020 vs Collingwood
For me the moment was the total lack of commitment and cohesion from the first bounce.
OK, now todays, left field, conspiracy theory number 1.
Did the match committee and the players have a prior inkling that this might be a one game season ? Obviously the idea may have been in most people's mind. Blind Freddy could see what was around the corner. Only (apparently) the AFL and NRL were oblivious to the world situation.
Something seemed amiss, and not just the spectators. The team effort was arguably the least committed I have seen a Bulldog team since the dark days of Royce Hart's coaching era.
Obviously I have no inside evidence of this, and its just an observation, just looking for an explanation for the team's apparent lack of interest and commitment.
Game highlight was the final siren sounding without a serious injury to any of our players.
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Re: The Moment, Rnd 1 2020 vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
Jeanette54
For me the moment was the total lack of commitment and cohesion from the first bounce.
OK, now todays, left field, conspiracy theory number 1.
Did the match committee and the players have a prior inkling that this might be a one game season ? Obviously the idea may have been in most people's mind. Blind Freddy could see what was around the corner. Only (apparently) the AFL and NRL were oblivious to the world situation.
Something seemed amiss, and not just the spectators. The team effort was arguably the least committed I have seen a Bulldog team since the dark days of Royce Hart's coaching era.
Obviously I have no inside evidence of this, and its just an observation, just looking for an explanation for the team's apparent lack of interest and commitment.
Game highlight was the final siren sounding without a serious injury to any of our players.
my understanding of that era was ‘grit’ was the important thing. Skilful players were shown the door, and had good careers elsewhere (Brian Wilson). It was a long time ago but that is how I remember it.
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Re: The Moment, Rnd 1 2020 vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
Jeanette54
For me the moment was the total lack of commitment and cohesion from the first bounce.
OK, now todays, left field, conspiracy theory number 1.
Did the match committee and the players have a prior inkling that this might be a one game season ? Obviously the idea may have been in most people's mind. Blind Freddy could see what was around the corner. Only (apparently) the AFL and NRL were oblivious to the world situation.
Something seemed amiss, and not just the spectators. The team effort was arguably the least committed I have seen a Bulldog team since the dark days of Royce Hart's coaching era.
Obviously I have no inside evidence of this, and its just an observation, just looking for an explanation for the team's apparent lack of interest and commitment.
Game highlight was the final siren sounding without a serious injury to any of our players.
We were sadly outgunned in the midfield where Collingwood were far superior. This would suggest that we need far more depth when our two standouts in both Bont and Dunks are down. Adding the likes of Maclean, Williams and Smith should assist plus the need for Trengrove to assist English in the ruck. Collingwood's skill level by foot and hand was also much better.
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Re: The Moment, Rnd 1 2020 vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
Nuggety Back Pocket
We were sadly outgunned in the midfield where Collingwood were far superior. This would suggest that we need far more depth when our two standouts in both Bont and Dunks are down. Adding the likes of Maclean, Williams and Smith should assist plus the need for Trengrove to assist English in the ruck. Collingwood's skill level by foot and hand was also much better.
I honestly thought we could handle Collingwood but the energy levels were well down and we were well beaten in the coaches box.
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Re: The Moment, Rnd 1 2020 vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I honestly thought we could handle Collingwood but the energy levels were well down .
Mitch Robinson said, when Brisbane ran out to no banner, no roar of the crowd, he felt like they were just playing a practise match. It didn't feel the same. I am not saying this is an excuse for us, but it must play a bit on players minds.
We know that a large percentage is always in their heads. Collingwood were definitely more geed up then us, and maybe that is an issue with coaching not revving them up as much.
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Re: The Moment, Rnd 1 2020 vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Mitch Robinson said, when Brisbane ran out to no banner, no roar of the crowd, he felt like they were just playing a practise match. It didn't feel the same. I am not saying this is an excuse for us, but it must play a bit on players minds.
We know that a large percentage is always in their heads. Collingwood were definitely more geed up then us, and maybe that is an issue with coaching not revving them up as much.
It's the same issue for all teams. We didn't match the energy level of the opposition and Bevo struggled in ringing the changes that might have sparked us. We didn't pick our best side either in my opinion.
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Re: The Moment, Rnd 1 2020 vs Collingwood
Originally Posted by
Nuggety Back Pocket
We were sadly outgunned in the midfield where Collingwood were far superior. This would suggest that we need far more depth when our two standouts in both Bont and Dunks are down. Adding the likes of Maclean, Williams and Smith should assist plus the need for Trengrove to assist English in the ruck. Collingwood's skill level by foot and hand was also much better.
I don’t want to see English in the first ruck role for a few years. He could be a match winning centre half forward. Mobile, good mark and excellent kick. There’s a greater probability of him being a new Templeton than a Grundy in my opinion.