Three things I've learned R1 V Collingwood

[Twodogs]

Ok let flu. Sorry fly.

[bulldogtragic]

1. Not sure what the MC we're thinking, what the players were giving or what the coach was doing to turn things around.
2. Cordy as our genuine FB and kick out specialist to centre our defence around. We are setting him to quit the game citing 'losing his passion to play'.
3. Lack of effort, desire, execution in an actual game is hard to accept. It's just a small one, but it's a small step back after bringing in Bruce & Keath after a strong back half of 2019. Lucky to lose by the margin we have.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

1. Keath is/will be a good addition, but he's not the primary thing our defense needed, and Gardner can't be expected to step up and fill that role in his 3rd game- if ever. That's on our recruiting and match committee
2. Our mids - we've thought they're up there as an upper echelon unit. Nope.
3. Bont is human. It's taken 6 years, but he's just served up a non AFL level performance for 4 Qtrs. WOW!

[Sedat]

1. The value of Libba cannot be measured in ability alone (although he is extremely talented). He is heart and soul, will always fly the flag and will never be a meek and mild presence
2. Bailey Smith sits very comfortably alongside our 'big 3' mids and will make it the 'big 4' by the end of the season
3. We learnt absolutely nothing from the valuable lesson GWS gave to us in the EF. Instead other teams learnt lessons on how to beat us.

[AshMac]

Going to try the positives this season:

1. Keath was fantastic, played deep and high and looks like a trade steal
2. Cavarras goal was a great moment. He looks explosive off a stand still and his tackling looked great.

That’s all I have...

[Hotdog60]

1: Like many have said Keath looks to be a very good pick up and battle well on the night.
2: English is 23 and how long does it take to develop when your a ruckman, I think his still a few years off.
3: Smith doesn't look like a player who lets himself get the 2 year blues.

[SonofScray]

1. Bruce drops his head and stops chasing if things aren't going our way. I give him a reprieve because he was starved of opportunity, but his body language and second efforts were shit. Keep your feet and chase. This isn't piss weak St Kilda mate. Get to work.

2. We've made a mistake extending Bevo to the degree we did. He should have been sacked a while back. If that's a taste of what we'll continue to dish up... and he can't close this gap between completely uncompetitive when we're off, to brilliant when we're on, I can't see a future for him. One trick pony. Too stubborn. Bat shit crazy. Why can't we arrest the bleeding when we are down? Our games have a very linear flow from MC, to first bounce to final siren. If it's looks bad early, it gets worse. If it looks good, we kick on.

I'm not being entirely rational here but I want to break this belief that the bloke has an infinite cache of credits in the bank due to the flag that wagged. They're spent. All of them. No more excuses. No more benefit of the doubt. Just bloody perform.

3. My mood was always going to break due to work related, pandemic stress. I'm sad the Club, through that effort are now the receptacle for my anger and frustration.

[bornadog]

1. Having a go at the coach is premature - again
2. Keath a great acquistion
3. Smith is going to be special

This I didnt learn but knew:

EFFORT, EFFORT, EFFORT - don't wait for someone else to do it.

[soupman]

1. Having a go at the coach is premature - again

Is it though? How many seasons have we come into a season with baffling team selections and half baked gameplans. To his credit we usually simplifyit be half way through the season and perform better as a result, but it is hardly unreasonable to be critical of yet another dumb start to a season from the coaching box.

[bornadog]

Is it though? How many seasons have we come into a season with baffling team selections and half baked gameplans. To his credit we usually simplifyit be half way through the season and perform better as a result, but it is hardly unreasonable to be critical of yet another dumb start to a season from the coaching box.

Calling for his sacking is

[GVGjr]

Calling for his sacking is

Just one with plenty of reasons provided. I've seen worse on the coronavirus thread

[GVGjr]

1 - Based on the performance against Collingwood hearing that we would use the debacle of the GWS final as motivation over the summer for the 2020 season was just a statement and not backed up by actions. We can use the game against Collingwood now as motivation against Carlton.
2 - Our match committee don't appear to have learned by last years failures and subsequent successes. We seem determined to again learn the hard way.
3 - With the ability to play on with our kick outs we must give the ball to Williams, Daniel and Suckling more.

[bornadog]

3 - With the ability to play on with our kick outs we must give the ball to Williams, Daniel and Suckling more.

I really think Suckling must play in the backline and also take the kickouts. I don't seem him as a forward, or as a wing.

[kruder]

I really think Suckling must play in the backline and also take the kickouts. I don't seem him as a forward, or as a wing.

Absolutely ditto JJ.

I'm more worried about our movement off half back on Friday night, there was no system at all.

[bornadog]

Absolutely ditto JJ.

I'm more worried about our movement off half back on Friday night, there was no system at all.

Yes I said that during the game. We were beaten in the midfield, but also we didn't have any run and carry.

I think we have too many HBF that are similar and we are trying to fit them all into a position somewhere on the ground.