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08-11-2020, 06:48 PM
#1306
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
Ghost Dog
Can someone give me a quick summary? What are we likely to get for Dunkley?
Leverde or Francis.
I hope Treloar somehow. I'm content on getting rid of Dunkley.
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08-11-2020, 07:08 PM
#1307
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
ledge
Checking out our lobsters and looking to buy land in QLD.
Mate, I can get you a few crates worth of lobster that fell of the back of a plane in Pudong.
But they might be a bit wiffy by now.
Mr Morrison has told us all to get out. Flights, up around 11-12K now, one way plus the 5K for two weeks quarrantine.
Ouch. Trying to figure out what to do.
My Dad is a bombers supporter. Back in the day Essendon had zoning in our patch I think.
But he hardly follows them anymore because of what they are now.
and I am not sure if this is really what most other supporters want, do they?
I'm going to be asking a lot of dumb questions guys I missed the whole season.
Hopefully MJP doesn't flame me too much....
Dad's taken to wearing my bulldogs scarf on skype, but he's rusted on in such things.
That generation never change teams.
To a quiet working class man it is a burden!
You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus
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08-11-2020, 07:13 PM
#1308
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
Leverde or Francis.
I hope Treloar somehow. I'm content on getting rid of Dunkley.
Ok I will google these guys. Treloar I take it most here do not want.
You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus
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08-11-2020, 07:31 PM
#1309
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
Ghost Dog
Ok I will google these guys. Treloar I take it most here do not want.
You are right there GD, keeping Dunks is what I want (well his manager said he would be happy to play here if he didn't get to Essendon). If we are to swap midfielder for midfielder then Josh is by far our best option.
Its not only about keeping Dunks, its also about sticking it up those entitled Essendon lowlife, who still think "whatever it takes", and a large cheque book is the way to a premiership. And it would be nice to see the club stand up for itself, and not let it be cowered into submission by these bigger clubs.
Show some guts guys, be more Bulldog.
The truth will set you free,
but first it will piss you off. ... Gloria Steinem.
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08-11-2020, 07:41 PM
#1310
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
Ghost Dog
I'm going to be asking a lot of dumb questions guys I missed the whole season.
Hopefully MJP doesn't flame me too much....
Stuff next season - I'm going to start now!
What should I tell her? She's going to ask.
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08-11-2020, 09:31 PM
#1311
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
Ghost Dog
Ok I will google these guys. Treloar I take it most here do not want.
I was joking mate. I do want Treloar though.
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08-11-2020, 10:28 PM
#1312
Re: Trade Dunkley
One thing that is very important to me is that Essendon have to pay big for Dunkley. I don't want them to get away with giving us a couple of picks in 20s because we can use them for points. I want us to wring them dry - if they are going to take a chase a valuable asset, they need to pay for him.
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08-11-2020, 10:42 PM
#1313
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
One thing that is very important to me is that Essendon have to pay big for Dunkley. I don't want them to get away with giving us a couple of picks in 20s because we can use them for points. I want us to wring them dry - if they are going to take a chase a valuable asset, they need to pay for him.
Absolutely. It concerns me that journos (a term used very loosely on Browne) are happy to wrap him up as an easy deal for pick 8 or Treloar. I know we don't listen to journos but the narrative should be around whether or not we have to give back a third rounder when they give us two first rounders.
I mean the most comparable trades involving a young, ball winning midfielder with considerable senior experience but mostly as the 2nd-4th string mid are:
-Dylan Shiel + Future 2nd (#42) for 9 and future 1st (#14)
-Lachie Neale + 30 for 6, 19 and 44.
I should leave it alone but you're not right
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09-11-2020, 12:45 AM
#1314
Re: Trade Dunkley
It's the sycophantism within the narrative that irks me. I have absolutely no doubt that HQ would have been suggesting at all costs for all media partners to ensure EFC gets positive coverage since the suspensions of the playing group, and because during the season they turn out to be average it's amplified in the post/ trading season.
FWIW I think Dunkley is worth a pick between six and ten, and an established player due to the conditions in which he is being sought out from our list. What we choose to do with the draft pick is up to us, of course, but that's where it is for mine.
Given clubs only have until Thursday to get things done I expect something substantial either tomorrow or Tuesday. Though realistically, I think this is going to be a situation where EFC let a player they are chasing down and scramble to ensure everyone within the media puts shit on the club that owns the contracted player instead of EFC (remember Scott West?).
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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09-11-2020, 01:38 AM
#1315
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
mjp
Stuff next season - I'm going to start now!
Save your energy. I mean you no harm sir
Well, Daniher was a bad precedent to set at the start. Bombers won that one. Hope they don't think it will be that easy with Bevo and co.
You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus
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09-11-2020, 09:18 AM
#1316
Re: Trade Dunkley
It looks like Essendon run out of time. They can't even get the Fantasia deal done and Saad has hit a snag.
Dunkley is probably a bulldog next year. That makes the Treloar situation fascinating as well.
Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers
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09-11-2020, 09:22 AM
#1317
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
Mofra
It looks like Essendon run out of time. They can't even get the Fantasia deal done and Saad has hit a snag.
Dunkley is probably a bulldog next year. That makes the Treloar situation fascinating as well.
They also need to find a decent pick for Caldwell. Fantasia has bitten off more than he can chew it seems, and will only get the Dunkley deal done if we cave and take less than overs.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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09-11-2020, 09:24 AM
#1318
Re: Trade Dunkley
Things can snowball very quickly.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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09-11-2020, 09:39 AM
#1319
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
comrade
They also need to find a decent pick for Caldwell. Fantasia has bitten off more than he can chew it seems, and will only get the Dunkley deal done if we cave and take less than overs.
I doubt we cave. The preference would be to keep him, especially if Libba's knees show any signs of not holding up to another full season (this time with longer quarters).
If Treloar was on a three year contract I might hold a different option, but 5 years at $900k (the last two years at ages 31 & 32) is a massive risk. Burst players past age 30 are a real gamble.
Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers
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09-11-2020, 10:05 AM
#1320
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
Mofra
I doubt we cave. The preference would be to keep him, especially if Libba's knees show any signs of not holding up to another full season (this time with longer quarters).
If Treloar was on a three year contract I might hold a different option, but 5 years at $900k (the last two years at ages 31 & 32) is a massive risk. Burst players past age 30 are a real gamble.
Excuse my ignorance, but why does his current contract have to continue? His contact is with Collingwood, not us. Why can’t we sign him for a two year contract? The first where Collingwood pay part of the salary, and the second where we are responsible. If he is still worth the coin after two years we re-negotiate.