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01-10-2022, 11:33 AM
#2926
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
DOG GOD
Id want 7 and 15 this year for Dunkley. Bris don’t need them so it makes sense.
I’ll be disappointed with anything else.
They do need points for Ashcroft and possibly Fletcher. Ashcroft alone could cost 2400 points if he is nominated as pick 1 by North and I think their total points for all picks to date are around that.
Check points here
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01-10-2022, 11:36 AM
#2927
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Scorlibo
Not tonight, Josephine. So begins the media's irritating but predictable underrating of our players at the trade table.
I haven't seen a lot of discussion on exactly how Brisbane are going to get the draft points they need while still offering us something suitable for Dunkley? So far as I can see pick swapping won't get them there and they need to let go of at least one quality player, has anyone seen any reporting on who that might be? We can't become the victim of their problems.
Matt Rendall put up a very poor plan for Brisbane to get the points required for Ashcroft and Fletcher and to satisfy us for Dunkley but it largely hinged on Brisbane acquiring pick 7 from the Suns and that would be shipped to us.
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01-10-2022, 11:39 AM
#2928
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Out of interest, what does Gold Coast actually want in return for Bowes and Pick 7? What would be considered a fair trade?
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01-10-2022, 11:47 AM
#2929
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Swoop
Out of interest, what does Gold Coast actually want in return for Bowes and Pick 7? What would be considered a fair trade?
It's been suggested a 2nd rounder for next season would be sufficient.
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01-10-2022, 01:33 PM
#2930
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
DOG GOD
Id want 7 and 15 this year for Dunkley. Bris don’t need them so it makes sense.
I’ll be disappointed with anything else.
They're likely to go into a points deficit so their 2023 first rounder becomes less valuable to them.
Their 2022 picks are likely to be traded down for a points surplus, depending on list spots available.
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01-10-2022, 01:58 PM
#2931
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
DOG GOD
Id want 7 and 15 this year for Dunkley. Bris don’t need them so it makes sense.
I’ll be disappointed with anything else.
In that scenario, I think we would also have to give something back to them. We won't get full market value for Dunks.
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01-10-2022, 02:00 PM
#2932
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
In that scenario, I think we would also have to give something back to them. We won't get full market value for Dunks.
No, ooc and wants to go you have to suck it up and take unders.
The best unders you can get but still unders.
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02-10-2022, 10:31 AM
#2933
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Matt Rendall put up a very poor plan for Brisbane to get the points required for Ashcroft and Fletcher and to satisfy us for Dunkley but it largely hinged on Brisbane acquiring pick 7 from the Suns and that would be shipped to us.
I suppose they'd be the leading suitor for Bowes, although given the nature of his exit the Suns might be inclined to take the best offer available, and not worry too much about his origins in QLD. Would certainly help our cause having pick 7 on the table.
Would we accept pick 7 alone? I think I'd take it with some steak knives. Depends on our recruiters' views on which pick gives us best value for nabbing our targets. Top ten picks generally net good players.
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02-10-2022, 12:35 PM
#2934
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Scorlibo
I suppose they'd be the leading suitor for Bowes, although given the nature of his exit the Suns might be inclined to take the best offer available, and not worry too much about his origins in QLD. Would certainly help our cause having pick 7 on the table.
Would we accept pick 7 alone? I think I'd take it with some steak knives. Depends on our recruiters' views on which pick gives us best value for nabbing our targets. Top ten picks generally net good players.
At minimum I would take pick 7 and next years 2nd round - emphasises is on minimum.
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02-10-2022, 01:14 PM
#2935
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
bornadog
At minimum I would take pick 7 and next years 2nd round - emphasises is on minimum.
That is close to the mark of what it will be I think. With maybe picks going back to help with f/s.
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02-10-2022, 05:13 PM
#2936
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
The Age article claiming Brisbane will offer a future first for Dunkley - I guess they will start low.
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02-10-2022, 05:44 PM
#2937
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
bornadog
The Age
article claiming Brisbane will offer a future first for Dunkley - I guess they will start low.
If picks 12 and 19 are going to secure Taranto then a future 1st for Dunks is well unders.
I won't be happy with this but I think we might get their pick 15 and a future 2nd from them.
Pick 7 would be a solid start if they can get that but I don't think they're that committed to it just yet.
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02-10-2022, 05:57 PM
#2938
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
There is plenty saying that next years draft is much stronger than this years. Wonder if Brissy will lean on this fact to drive a hard bargain.
I want a first this year and next. Confident Sammy P will be pushing for the same.
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02-10-2022, 05:57 PM
#2939
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
If picks 12 and 19 are going to secure Taranto then a future 1st for Dunks is well unders.
I won't be happy with this but I think we might get their pick 15 and a future 2nd from them.
Pick 7 would be a solid start if they can get that but I don't think they're that committed to it just yet.
I think pick 15 and future second which could be in the 30's is well under G.
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02-10-2022, 06:02 PM
#2940
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Bulldog4life
I think pick 15 and future second which could be in the 30's is well under G.
One of the problems of Bevo confirming that Brisbane need to "pony up" is that we now need to make sure they do.
That might be harder given the commitments to father son picks. #15 and a future 2 nd round pick is a miss.