Trade Dunkley

[Bullies]

Definitely not a leader, as a leader would look at a problem and help solve rather than run away from it. Or if it was just about the money and status they'd be happy enough admitting it was just about the money and status.

And him not being a leader when push comes to shove is actually OK. Not everyone can be and some will do whatever they need to do to prioritise their perceived self-interest when it suits them.

Definitely all about the coin. By all accounts he is very much like his old man. Such a shame when you are talking the difference between $700k - $750k. That sort of money at that level doesn't make or break you. Maybe he could learn something of Cameron, Dangerfield and Hawkins at the Cats who were happy to take a hit for the benefit of the team knowing they can still lead a good lifestyle on what they are on.

[Bulldog4life]

I agree, its not acceptable here. Given the amount we have put into Dunks - prioritising him over guys like lipinski, McLean, West and Garcia so that he could develop and play his preferred midfield spot. I would get it if we were a basket case and not in his career likely to play in a finalis let alone a GF; I'd get it if we were offering far less than Brisbane. The fact we are not and it smacks of a decision that is all about HIM. The individual. Good riddance I say, but lets not make this easy.

Agree.

[Bulldog4life]

It appears Grundy is a cert to go to the Dees if they lose Jackson. Both parties have met all ready. We'd have to move extra fast.

[Mofra]

Definitely all about the coin.

I doubt this very much.
Problems at the Bulldogs all year just haven't been resolved.

[GVGjr]

I’m not very good at this, but surely we can find a way to make it work…

Bulldogs - out Dunkley, current second round pick, current fourth round, future second round pick
Bulldogs - in Grundy, future first round, future third round (Brisbane)

Brisbane - out pick 15, future first round, future third round
Brisbane - in Dunkley, second round and fourth round (Bulldogs)

Pies - out Grundy
Pies - in pick 15, future second round (Bulldogs)

Well done GD, Jon Ralph thinks Grundy to Melbourne is a very likely scenario and Goodwin confirmed Melbourne believe it can work.

[Rocco Jones]

I am not a fan of the way Dunkley has handled this and find him cringe in general, however completely writing it off as him being a mercenary/all about his brand is problematic. Forget defending him, but I am us to be as successful as possible.

As cringe as I find Dunkley, one thing I cannot fault is his professionalism. It's really easy and convenient to place all the blame on him but I hope we have taken or take a thorough look at these issues.

[EasternWest]

I am not a fan of the way Dunkley has handled this and find him cringe in general, however completely writing it off as him being a mercenary/all about his brand is problematic. Forget defending him, but I am us to be as successful as possible.

As cringe as I find Dunkley, one thing I cannot fault is his professionalism. It's really easy and convenient to place all the blame on him but I hope we have taken or take a thorough look at these issues.

I actually agree qith this 100%, but my only caveat is that does he think any club in the league isn't going to have cokeheads and shitbags?

[my plums]

I just don't get the 'problems at the club' narrative. If that was the case, wouldn't more players be requesting a trade rather than re-signing?

[G-Mo77]

I just don't get the 'problems at the club' narrative. If that was the case, wouldn't more players be requesting a trade rather than re-signing?

Exactly. It's bullshit. How many out of contract players did we sign this season. Can't be that much of a problem.

[Rocco Jones]

I actually agree qith this 100%, but my only caveat is that does he think any club in the league isn't going to have cokeheads and shitbags?

Totally. I mean we investigate (possibly Gareth Kennnan). Not saying Dunkley is right or wrong but I'd like to know. My feel is that it's somewhere in the grey zone.

He did want to go to Essendon was that makes the culture thing a bit harder to take. Maybe he wanted the coin and has been resentful about missing out. Who knows I guess is my point. I'd like us to know.

[bornadog]

I actually agree with this 100%, but my only caveat is that does he think any club in the league isn't going to have cokeheads and shitbags?

Nailed it

[Rocco Jones]

Exactly. It's bullshit. How many out of contract players did we sign this season. Can't be that much of a problem.

Maybe the guys signing on are part of the problem. As in they are signing on as life is 'easy'.

I think you are probably (at least) mostly right and Dunkley is probably talking a lot of crap but he is very professional, for the betterment of our club, I hope we have investigated the issues or do so.

[Rocco Jones]

I actually agree qith this 100%, but my only caveat is that does he think any club in the league isn't going to have cokeheads and shitbags?

Nailed it

Yes there are but:
1/ how many?
2/ how are they managed?
3/ how those it effect results?

The easy option is to believe Dunkley is a dick. I love that option. I have zero interest in defending him but I am desperate for us to be as successful as possible. Dunkley for all his faults, has been very professional and setting high standards. Way higher than our benchmark this season.

[my plums]

Exactly. It's bullshit. How many out of contract players did we sign this season. Can't be that much of a problem.

So many

[azabob]

Is it as simple as Dunkley wants to be number one or two in the pecking order? 100% midfield time, no rotating through other positions on the ground.