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27-09-2022, 07:00 PM
#2806
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Apparently Brisbane another in the long line of clubs interested in making the Bowes deal with Gold Coast. Us ending up with pick 7 as part of the Dunkley deal wouldn't be a bad result.
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27-09-2022, 07:01 PM
#2807
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Send us a message if he is there.
I don't normally go as the missus hates those nights.
Will do - we have before drinks so I'll know early (I'll ask Marra).
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27-09-2022, 07:03 PM
#2808
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
Apparently Brisbane another in the long line of clubs interested in making the Bowes deal with Gold Coast. Us ending up with pick 7 as part of the Dunkley deal wouldn't be a bad result.
If so, that would be a great endorsement of how they're managing their salary cap.
Pick 7 for Dunks would be around the mark but I'd want a future 3rd.
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27-09-2022, 07:06 PM
#2809
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
If so, that would be a great endorsement of how they're managing their salary cap.
Pick 7 for Dunks would be around the mark but I'd want a future 3rd.
Not greedy enough. Pick 7 (8 after Ashcroft) and swap of their future first- for their future second puts it on par with the Dylan Shiel trade. Being Pick 9 and the future swap.
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27-09-2022, 07:07 PM
#2810
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
If so, that would be a great endorsement of how they're managing their salary cap.
Pick 7 for Dunks would be around the mark but I'd want a future 3rd.
Yeah not sure how they could bring in Dunkley on $750K and Bowes on $850K (even if they extended and flattened out the Bowes deal a bit), whilst only losing McStay of note.
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27-09-2022, 08:01 PM
#2811
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
Yeah not sure how they could bring in Dunkley on $750K and Bowes on $850K (even if they extended and flattened out the Bowes deal a bit), whilst only losing McStay of note.
Maybe planning on losing more, like Gardiner
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27-09-2022, 08:23 PM
#2812
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Not greedy enough. Pick 7 (8 after Ashcroft) and swap of their future first- for their future second puts it on par with the Dylan Shiel trade. Being Pick 9 and the future swap.
Clarify, in addition to pick 7 (8 after Ashcroft) you mean a swap of Brions future first with WB's future second?
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27-09-2022, 08:30 PM
#2813
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
F'scary
Clarify, in addition to pick 7 (8 after Ashcroft) you mean a swap of Brions future first with WB's future second?
Sorry there.
If they gave us Pick 7 this year, it will be in effect Pick 8 once they match the bid on Ashcroft. So in reality, we are getting Pick 8.
Then next year exchange their 1st, for our 2nd.
Results in: Pick 7 (8) & Future First rounder for Dunkley & Future Second.
Shiel trade: Pick 9 & Future First rounder for Shiel & Future Second.
Why:
Dunkley has a better year than Shiel
Similar career trajectory
Same age at trade time
Both monster contracts are 6 years, circa $750,000
That’s only if they somehow got Pick 7.
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27-09-2022, 08:50 PM
#2814
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Sorry there.
If they gave us Pick 7 this year, it will be in effect Pick 8 once they match the bid on Ashcroft. So in reality, we are getting Pick 8.
Then next year exchange their 1st, for our 2nd.
Results in: Pick 7 (8) & Future First rounder for Dunkley & Future Second.
Shiel trade: Pick 9 & Future First rounder for Shiel & Future Second.
Why:
Dunkley has a better year than Shiel
Similar career trajectory
Same age at trade time
Both monster contracts are 6 years, circa $750,000
That’s only if they somehow got Pick 7.
I'd also suggest they would prefer a our second rounder this year, rather than future. So we would get pick 7 plus future first, for Dunkley and this year's 2nd.
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27-09-2022, 09:03 PM
#2815
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
I'd also suggest they would prefer a our second rounder this year, rather than future. So we would get pick 7 plus future first, for Dunkley and this year's 2nd.
I could live with this year, but prefer combining Pick 37 & 65 (points) over Pick 29. I'm still not sure exactly how they have cash for Bowes to get Pick 7. Unless Dunkley is back ending his contract to the expected retirement of some bigger cash players like Daniher etc??? (And they're still chasing Gunston...)
I still think the more likely outcome is their Pick 15, future first and then swaps of our Picks 29 & 37 to Brisbane, for their Picks 33 & 44. Then dangle Pick 33 for Lobb.
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27-09-2022, 09:08 PM
#2816
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
I could live with this year, but prefer combining Pick 37 & 65 (points) over Pick 29. I'm still not sure exactly how they have cash for Bowes to get Pick 7. Unless Dunkley is back ending his contract to the expected retirement of some bigger cash players like Daniher etc???
I still think the more likely outcome is their Pick 15, future first and then swaps of our Picks 29 & 37 to Brisbane, for their Picks 33 & 44. Then dangle Pick 33 for Lobb.
Yeh that's fair. I guess my point was that they will want more currency for this year.
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27-09-2022, 09:14 PM
#2817
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
Yeh that's fair. I guess my point was that they will want more currency for this year.
You're dead right. Happy to give them the pick swaps if they hand over the two first rounders. Our picks 29 & 37 for their picks 33 and 44 nets them 221 extra draft points this year.
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27-09-2022, 10:57 PM
#2818
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
You're dead right. Happy to give them the pick swaps if they hand over the two first rounders. Our picks 29 & 37 for their picks 33 and 44 nets them 221 extra draft points this year.
As long as Freo are happy with 33
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27-09-2022, 10:59 PM
#2819
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
bornadog
As long as Freo are happy with 33
Fremantles interest will mainly be on satisfying Melbourne for Jackson.
There are a lot of moving parts.
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27-09-2022, 11:10 PM
#2820
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
Apparently Brisbane another in the long line of clubs interested in making the Bowes deal with Gold Coast. Us ending up with pick 7 as part of the Dunkley deal wouldn't be a bad result.
So could we potentially go into the draft with 7, 11, 15 and 37 giving Brisbane back pick 29 so they can bank some points?
They'll also land something for McStay. Three picks inside of twenty and another in the early third round is something we should be able to work with.