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02-10-2022, 07:07 PM
#2941
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
SlimPickens
There is plenty saying that next years draft is much stronger than this years. Wonder if Brissy will lean on this fact to drive a hard bargain.
I want a first this year and next. Confident Sammy P will be pushing for the same.
I think that should be the next result and Power will stand his ground. I can see this one getting done late.
What they get for McStay and T.Berry might open up some possibilities.
If they got pick 7 that would give us some options.
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02-10-2022, 07:08 PM
#2942
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Stevo
One of the problems of Bevo confirming that Brisbane need to "pony up" is that we now need to make sure they do.
That might be harder given the commitments to father son picks. #15 and a future 2 nd round pick is a miss.
Just asked a question on Twitter. Will be interested to see some of the responses.
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02-10-2022, 07:08 PM
#2943
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Bulldog4life
I think pick 15 and future second which could be in the 30's is well under G.
I agree BFL.
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02-10-2022, 07:16 PM
#2944
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Stevo
One of the problems of Bevo confirming that Brisbane need to "pony up" is that we now need to make sure they do.
That might be harder given the commitments to father son picks. #15 and a future 2 nd round pick is a miss.
If they can't find the points they'll just have to pass. You committed to the player pay a fair price for him don't complain to us if it prices you out of other options
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02-10-2022, 07:27 PM
#2945
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
hujsh
If they can't find the points they'll just have to pass. You committed to the player pay a fair price for him don't complain to us if it prices you out of other options
They can go into points deficit for next year
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02-10-2022, 07:48 PM
#2946
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
bornadog
They can go into points deficit for next year
How's that going to work if they are trading based on selections in the 2023 draft?
I'm curious as to how they are going to do all of this.
What should I tell her? She's going to ask.
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02-10-2022, 08:10 PM
#2947
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
mjp
How's that going to work if they are trading based on selections in the 2023 draft?
I'm curious as to how they are going to do all of this.
My understanding is that they can only go into a deficit equal to the value of their 2023 picks, and the picks are valued as if they finish as premiers in 2023. As it stands the limit would be around 1700 points.
Brisbane 2022 draft points: 2040
2023 draft point deficit available: 1700
Yet if they were to trade us this year's first rounder and next year's, they'd be left with:
2022: 928
2023: ~715
And they need around 3200 points for Ashcroft and Fletcher. Pick 7 from Gold Coast in exchange for a second rounder would just about get them there, if they can also scrounge a few hundred points with pick swaps. Otherwise they'll have to let go of good players.
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02-10-2022, 08:49 PM
#2948
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
hujsh
If they can't find the points they'll just have to pass. You committed to the player pay a fair price for him don't complain to us if it prices you out of other options
They have committed to the player and if he was contracted I think what you have said makes sense although Essendon held firm to a pick inside the top 10.
I'm not convinced that they won't just put in a reasonable offer and hold firm because there is no way Dunkley will do a medical with another club.
There are a number of options available to Brisbane to get the 3 deals done. Leaving us a bit short would obviously be their preference but we know Sam's good so lets back him. It's a big test though.
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02-10-2022, 09:10 PM
#2949
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
They have committed to the player and if he was contracted I think what you have said makes sense although Essendon held firm to a pick inside the top 10.
I'm not convinced that they won't just put in a reasonable offer and hold firm because there is no way Dunkley will do a medical with another club.
There are a number of options available to Brisbane to get the 3 deals done. Leaving us a bit short would obviously be their preference but we know Sam's good so lets back him. It's a big test though.
Brisbane have made the contract offer. They need to provide satisfactory compensation.
We do not need to facilitate an easy outcome.
If we are not satisfied Dunkley can accept our offer or go the PSD.
Going to North or West Coast is the risk for Dunkley but he needs Brisbane to provide the trade capital to prevent that.
We can ask for Rayner or Zac Bailey if they can't provide adequate draft picks.
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02-10-2022, 09:20 PM
#2950
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
Brisbane have made the contract offer. They need to provide satisfactory compensation.
We do not need to facilitate an easy outcome.
If we are not satisfied Dunkley can accept our offer or go the PSD.
Going to North or West Coast is the risk for Dunkley but he needs Brisbane to provide the trade capital to prevent that.
We can ask for Rayner or Zac Bailey if they can't provide adequate draft picks.
Just out of curiosity if we did push him to the PSD and Essendon got him would that still be okay?
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02-10-2022, 09:20 PM
#2951
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Gleeson in the Age is reporting that the Lions are offering a future first for Dunkley.
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02-10-2022, 09:24 PM
#2952
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
kruder
Gleeson in the Age is reporting that the Lions are offering a future first for Dunkley.
Surely that’s not even in the equation. ?
I will never see #16 the same!!
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02-10-2022, 09:25 PM
#2953
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
kruder
Gleeson in the Age is reporting that the Lions are offering a future first for Dunkley.
Originally Posted by
DOG GOD
Surely that’s not even in the equation. ?
It's their starting point. Sam won't accept that.
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02-10-2022, 09:26 PM
#2954
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
It's their starting point. Sam won't accept that.
You would hope not
I will never see #16 the same!!
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02-10-2022, 09:35 PM
#2955
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Just out of curiosity if we did push him to the PSD and Essendon got him would that still be okay?
Doesn't matter who gets him. We can make sure it's not Brisbane and that's all that really matters in the context of these negotiations (I assume we can match his salary demands)
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