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    Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.

    Quote Originally Posted by SlimPickens View Post
    There is plenty saying that next years draft is much stronger than this years. Wonder if Brissy will lean on this fact to drive a hard bargain.

    I want a first this year and next. Confident Sammy P will be pushing for the same.
    I think that should be the next result and Power will stand his ground. I can see this one getting done late.
    What they get for McStay and T.Berry might open up some possibilities.
    If they got pick 7 that would give us some options.
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    Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stevo View Post
    One of the problems of Bevo confirming that Brisbane need to "pony up" is that we now need to make sure they do.
    That might be harder given the commitments to father son picks. #15 and a future 2 nd round pick is a miss.
    Just asked a question on Twitter. Will be interested to see some of the responses.
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    Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog4life View Post
    I think pick 15 and future second which could be in the 30's is well under G.
    I agree BFL.
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    Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stevo View Post
    One of the problems of Bevo confirming that Brisbane need to "pony up" is that we now need to make sure they do.
    That might be harder given the commitments to father son picks. #15 and a future 2 nd round pick is a miss.
    If they can't find the points they'll just have to pass. You committed to the player pay a fair price for him don't complain to us if it prices you out of other options

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    Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.

    Quote Originally Posted by hujsh View Post
    If they can't find the points they'll just have to pass. You committed to the player pay a fair price for him don't complain to us if it prices you out of other options
    They can go into points deficit for next year
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    Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    They can go into points deficit for next year
    How's that going to work if they are trading based on selections in the 2023 draft?

    I'm curious as to how they are going to do all of this.
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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    Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.

    Quote Originally Posted by mjp View Post
    How's that going to work if they are trading based on selections in the 2023 draft?

    I'm curious as to how they are going to do all of this.
    My understanding is that they can only go into a deficit equal to the value of their 2023 picks, and the picks are valued as if they finish as premiers in 2023. As it stands the limit would be around 1700 points.

    Brisbane 2022 draft points: 2040
    2023 draft point deficit available: 1700

    Yet if they were to trade us this year's first rounder and next year's, they'd be left with:

    2022: 928
    2023: ~715

    And they need around 3200 points for Ashcroft and Fletcher. Pick 7 from Gold Coast in exchange for a second rounder would just about get them there, if they can also scrounge a few hundred points with pick swaps. Otherwise they'll have to let go of good players.
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    Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.

    Quote Originally Posted by hujsh View Post
    If they can't find the points they'll just have to pass. You committed to the player pay a fair price for him don't complain to us if it prices you out of other options
    They have committed to the player and if he was contracted I think what you have said makes sense although Essendon held firm to a pick inside the top 10.

    I'm not convinced that they won't just put in a reasonable offer and hold firm because there is no way Dunkley will do a medical with another club.

    There are a number of options available to Brisbane to get the 3 deals done. Leaving us a bit short would obviously be their preference but we know Sam's good so lets back him. It's a big test though.
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    Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    They have committed to the player and if he was contracted I think what you have said makes sense although Essendon held firm to a pick inside the top 10.

    I'm not convinced that they won't just put in a reasonable offer and hold firm because there is no way Dunkley will do a medical with another club.

    There are a number of options available to Brisbane to get the 3 deals done. Leaving us a bit short would obviously be their preference but we know Sam's good so lets back him. It's a big test though.
    Brisbane have made the contract offer. They need to provide satisfactory compensation.

    We do not need to facilitate an easy outcome.

    If we are not satisfied Dunkley can accept our offer or go the PSD.

    Going to North or West Coast is the risk for Dunkley but he needs Brisbane to provide the trade capital to prevent that.

    We can ask for Rayner or Zac Bailey if they can't provide adequate draft picks.
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    Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog Joe View Post
    Brisbane have made the contract offer. They need to provide satisfactory compensation.

    We do not need to facilitate an easy outcome.

    If we are not satisfied Dunkley can accept our offer or go the PSD.

    Going to North or West Coast is the risk for Dunkley but he needs Brisbane to provide the trade capital to prevent that.

    We can ask for Rayner or Zac Bailey if they can't provide adequate draft picks.
    Just out of curiosity if we did push him to the PSD and Essendon got him would that still be okay?
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    Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.

    Gleeson in the Age is reporting that the Lions are offering a future first for Dunkley.

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    Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.

    Quote Originally Posted by kruder View Post
    Gleeson in the Age is reporting that the Lions are offering a future first for Dunkley.
    Surely that’s not even in the equation. ?
    I will never see #16 the same!!

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    Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.

    Quote Originally Posted by kruder View Post
    Gleeson in the Age is reporting that the Lions are offering a future first for Dunkley.
    Quote Originally Posted by DOG GOD View Post
    Surely that’s not even in the equation. ?
    It's their starting point. Sam won't accept that.
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    Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    It's their starting point. Sam won't accept that.
    You would hope not
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    Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Just out of curiosity if we did push him to the PSD and Essendon got him would that still be okay?
    Doesn't matter who gets him. We can make sure it's not Brisbane and that's all that really matters in the context of these negotiations (I assume we can match his salary demands)

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