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05-10-2022, 07:46 PM
#3016
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
kruder
How do people feel about waiting an extra year for a shiny new toy?
If there are two picks in the deal im keen for at least one this year just think this group can kick hard off a freshen up and a good vibe that new recruits can provide.
Yeah there's value in that for sure. 2 firsts this year would be a good injection (and 2 next in a super draft as well)
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05-10-2022, 07:47 PM
#3017
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
kruder
How do people feel about waiting an extra year for a shiny new toy?
If there are two picks in the deal im keen for at least one this year just think this group can kick hard off a freshen up and a good vibe that new recruits can provide.
Whose to say we don’t trade it for a player (not reported about) this year?
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05-10-2022, 08:19 PM
#3018
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
kruder
How do people feel about waiting an extra year for a shiny new toy?
If there are two picks in the deal im keen for at least one this year just think this group can kick hard off a freshen up and a good vibe that new recruits can provide.
We've got to get something in return for next season otherwise, IMO, it's a fail. So many good teams going so hard to make themselves better, Geelong, Richmond, Melbourne, Collingwood, Brisbane have already shown their intent. We seem to be content losing players and don't seem to have any targets or any fires in the oven apart from some Salvo store specials.
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05-10-2022, 08:21 PM
#3019
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
kruder
How do people feel about waiting an extra year for a shiny new toy?
If there are two picks in the deal im keen for at least one this year just think this group can kick hard off a freshen up and a good vibe that new recruits can provide.
We will bring in a player with our first round pick and Power prepared us by saying he was open to a few scenario's.
My preference is to get a few players in now but it might not play out that way.
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05-10-2022, 10:07 PM
#3020
Re: Trade Dunkley
Well, we’ve got Jones. We might get in Lobb. Unless we get another best 18 or so KPD or small fwd, I’d say we go to draft with any pick in the top 30 or so. I’m not massively in the “we need to get someone this year” vibe, noting that our drafting is usually pretty good in the first round and most of our good players were first rounders.
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05-10-2022, 10:32 PM
#3021
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
We've got to get something in return for next season otherwise, IMO, it's a fail. So many good teams going so hard to make themselves better, Geelong, Richmond, Melbourne, Collingwood, Brisbane have already shown their intent. We seem to be content losing players and don't seem to have any targets or any fires in the oven apart from some Salvo store specials.
Players need to want to come to our club, and they just don’t for whatever reason.
I will never see #16 the same!!
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05-10-2022, 10:48 PM
#3022
Re: Trade Dunkley
I’ve just been reading not posting a lot on the trade threads. Will be fascinating how it plays out.
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05-10-2022, 11:41 PM
#3023
Re: Trade Dunkley
I don’t see how Brisbane have the capital available after trading pick 15 for a future second rounder. If Taranto is worth two single digit picks, Dunkley is worth much more. Let it go to the pre … our contract is still on the table Josh. You’re welcome to stay.
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05-10-2022, 11:46 PM
#3024
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
Eastdog
I’ve just been reading not posting a lot on the trade threads. Will be fascinating how it plays out.
I’ve been wondering today how the Lions can get picks off the Giants to give to us - they seem to have a swag of early picks
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05-10-2022, 11:47 PM
#3025
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
DOG GOD
Players need to want to come to our club, and they just don’t for whatever reason.
Lobb, Jones do
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06-10-2022, 03:48 AM
#3026
Re: Trade Dunkley
What happens to Brisbane's future first round pick if Brisbane end up in points deficit after matching bids on Ashcroft and the other f/s (Fletcher?)? Is it pushed back and if so how far? And if we end up with their future first pick for Dunks, is it locked because we now hold it? I doubt that to be the case so what guarantees do we have that if we accept their future first that they have the points currency to be able to cover any bids on their F/S kids? My concern is if we accept any future picks with Brisbane now with a week remaining in the trade window, Brisbane go and trade away their picks haphazardly this year ,knowing it wont affect them because we hold their picks and we get pushed back the order next year not them.
Did that make any sense or am I just delirious because I can't sleep right now?
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06-10-2022, 04:58 AM
#3027
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
DOG GOD
Players need to want to come to our club, and they just don’t for whatever reason.
Lobb and Jones are 2 who wanted to come here but I get your point DG.
Are we being proactive in recruiting or just waiting and see how things fall into place? I know we don't know much as our club gives nothing away. It would be nice to hear nothing but silence once in a while. I'm very concerned how our trade period is going right now. We're losing 3 of our premiership players and 2 of those are F/S for what seems like a couple of magic beans.
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06-10-2022, 07:59 AM
#3028
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Lobb, Jones do
Not guys in their prime are they .
I will never see #16 the same!!
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06-10-2022, 08:26 AM
#3029
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
ratsmac
What happens to Brisbane's future first round pick if Brisbane end up in points deficit after matching bids on Ashcroft and the other f/s (Fletcher?)? Is it pushed back and if so how far? And if we end up with their future first pick for Dunks, is it locked because we now hold it? I doubt that to be the case so what guarantees do we have that if we accept their future first that they have the points currency to be able to cover any bids on their F/S kids? My concern is if we accept any future picks with Brisbane now with a week remaining in the trade window, Brisbane go and trade away their picks haphazardly this year ,knowing it wont affect them because we hold their picks and we get pushed back the order next year not them.
Did that make any sense or am I just delirious because I can't sleep right now?
They can go into deficit to around 700 points or around pick 27.
If they trade that future 1st pick nothing happens to it as it's no longer theirs and the deficit is applied to other selections.
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06-10-2022, 08:53 AM
#3030
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
DOG GOD
Players need to want to come to our club, and they just don’t for whatever reason.
Not sure how we fix that and perhaps the redevelopment of the WO might help.
Either way if we aren't perceived as a destination club in the eyes of good players in the prime of their careers then we need to be a club that has a great development program and become a club that focuses more on the draft and lower end trades.
One of the challenges is that we haven't been a successful club over an extended period ie after our successes in 2015 and 2016 we couldn't back up the flag in 2017/18 and lost momentum. The same this year after a very impressive 2021.
We are a well run club and 50K members means we are growing the membership base and we now just need to improve or on-field performances in what is a very competitive competition.
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