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07-10-2022, 06:08 PM
#3301
Re: Trade Dunkley
Callum Twomey
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Clubs are looking to see if there are provisions within rules that could allow them to trade out their future first and second-round picks to unlock deals. Exemptions are allowed in the 'two first-rounders in four years' rule. Could shape a few of the big deals to come.
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07-10-2022, 06:09 PM
#3302
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
Bulldog4life
Thanks BT. But how can any club offer a future first and future second when you have said the above.
Brisbane have traded extra future second round picks in, and can apply tot he AFL for dispensation to trade a future first and second.
By rumour, Brisbane and Port have both made appeals to the AFL this year (Brisbane for Dunkley picks, Port for JHF picks)
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07-10-2022, 06:14 PM
#3303
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
Mofra
Brisbane have traded extra future second round picks in, and can apply tot he AFL for dispensation to trade a future first and second.
By rumour, Brisbane and Port have both made appeals to the AFL this year (Brisbane for Dunkley picks, Port for JHF picks)
If they can trade some fringe players. Say Mathison upgrading their Future 3rd into a Future 2nd, and another player upgrading a Future 4th into a Future 3rd. Then they can package up two Future Seconds to go fishing for a Future First. To then offer 2 x Future Firsts. If they can pull it off, it's very clever, but infuriating as two Future end of First Rounders ain't very good although meeting our demand.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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07-10-2022, 06:16 PM
#3304
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
bornadog
They need to satisfy us
That's where the KY comes in handy.
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07-10-2022, 06:23 PM
#3305
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
If they can trade some fringe players. Say Mathison upgrading their Future 3rd into a Future 2nd, and another player upgrading a Future 4th into a Future 3rd. Then they can package up two Future Seconds to go fishing for a Future First. To then offer 2 x Future Firsts. If they can pull it off, it's very clever, but infuriating as two Future end of First Rounders ain't very good although meeting our demand.
Looking at Twomey's take on the next draft Jed Walter is a Top 10 Pick next year. He's a GCS Academy Pick. Plus several others likely to be matched on bids.
As an example... If GCS can upgrade their Future Second (maybe circa Pick 25) into a late Future First (say Pick 15-18) for a Pick or two this year and/or Future Fourth. Or say a player, Fiorini to Collingwood for this upgrade maybe. Or if they get Geelong’s Future First in return for Bowes and hand Geelong back their second Rounder.
Then GCS trade that Future First to Brisbane for 2 x Future Second Rounders. Now GCS have at a guess Pick 10 worth of Draft Points, to secure Walter. It also gives them more flexibility if Walter goes higher, to try to 'trade up' the order before the expected bid.
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Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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07-10-2022, 07:18 PM
#3306
Re: Trade Dunkley
I think I’m not so much interested in what picks we get, but rather what we do with them.
We’re not going to take as many picks as Brisbane will give us numbers wise, so perhaps we have a player in mind?
Sam, do your magic!
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07-10-2022, 07:19 PM
#3307
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
ReLoad
I think I’m not so much interested in what picks we get, but rather what we do with them.
We’re not going to take as many picks as Brisbane will give us numbers wise, so perhaps we have a player in mind?
Sam, do your magic!
For thou art wise.
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07-10-2022, 07:35 PM
#3308
Re: Trade Dunkley
I wish bad things for the Lions. I hope karma bites them... like it would be amazing now if they not only missed out on Dunkley, but someone put an early bid on Jaspa Fletcher and forced them to scramble for more points.
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07-10-2022, 07:49 PM
#3309
Re: Trade Dunkley
[QUOTE=Yankee Hotel Foxtrot;813355]I wish bad things for the Lions. I hope karma bites them... like it would be amazing now if they not only missed out on Dunkley, but someone put an early bid on Jaspa Fletcher and forced them to scramble for more points.[/QUOTE
The defensive gods have been hitting them with Karma 4 straight years. If you cant defend you can play in the big dance.
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07-10-2022, 08:04 PM
#3310
Re: Trade Dunkley
What's to stop the Bummers from grabbing Dunkley if he's there at their turn. They would be doing a happy dance getting him for nothing after the failed attempt to screw us last time.
Don't piss off old people
The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...
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07-10-2022, 08:17 PM
#3311
Re: Trade Dunkley
What about if Brisbane get the right to trade both first and second round picks next year. They trade them with GWS for picks (say) 3 & 15. This pics are on-traded to us for Dunkley. GWS then get fodder for their academy player in 2023. Brisbane get Dunkley; Bulldogs get two first rounders.
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07-10-2022, 09:23 PM
#3312
Re: Trade Dunkley
Dunkley is one of the best inside mids in the comp + he can play as a marking forward. He is a beast, physically. He is easily worth the equivalent of the 12 + 19 paid by Tiggers to GWS for Taranto. I would prefer him to go to norf for nix rather than fold to the Brions.
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07-10-2022, 09:24 PM
#3313
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
Hotdog60
What's to stop the Bummers from grabbing Dunkley if he's there at their turn. They would be doing a happy dance getting him for nothing after the failed attempt to screw us last time.
I would prefer they get him rather than the Brions who traded out their capital deliberately.
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07-10-2022, 09:29 PM
#3314
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
F'scary
I would prefer they get him rather than the Brions who traded out their capital deliberately.
I agree and at this stage I would rather he ends up anywhere rather than the Lions unless they find a way to pony up. A term I heard recently.
Don't piss off old people
The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...
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07-10-2022, 09:57 PM
#3315
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
It's not sounding promising....why does it feel like in all of this, we're losing the star player, brisbane is gaining him and the premiers somehow come out on top with the picks. You'd think clubs would want to stop giving Geelong an upper hand
It's soft avoidance of restraint of trade, to appease the players.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.