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25-10-2020, 03:04 PM
#406
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
chef
Yeah but once someone doesnt want to be here, you dont keep them. Their hearts not in it and the fans will turn.
If he wants out see you later mate we dont want you either.
This is a different situation. It isn't that he doesn't want to be with us, or he is unhappy with the club, coach, players, it is purely due to an opportunity that has come up to make big money.
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25-10-2020, 03:05 PM
#407
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
soupaman
Tom Papley? Ryan O'Keefe? I know they are very much in the minority but they do show that it can be done.
Yeah but they were wanting to come home to Victoria from another state. Dunkley wants to go to Essendon. Huge difference.
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25-10-2020, 03:07 PM
#408
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
bornadog
This is a different situation. It isn't that he doesn't want to be with us, or he is unhappy with the club, coach, players, it is purely due to an opportunity that has come up to make big money.
As I've already asked, how would you know?
He may just want to play in his natural position and get payed well for it.
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25-10-2020, 03:07 PM
#409
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
bornadog
This is a different situation. It isn't that he doesn't want to be with us, or he is unhappy with the club, coach, players, it is purely due to an opportunity that has come up to make big money.
We don't know anything for certain.
Essendon have seen an opportunity that Dunkely for whatever reason is not in our first choice midfield line up and have approached with a great opportunity on field and a whole lot of reasons off field to take it seriously.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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25-10-2020, 03:09 PM
#410
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
bornadog
A couple of comments.
The only reason Dunks would leave is for the money, not because he has cracked the shits over playing a couple of games relief ruck. He loves the club and his mates at the club and loves the coach.
Also, lets say we decide to trade with Essendon. Knowing Essendon the deal will be done on the eleventh hour and we won't have time to use the picks to on trade with another club for a Backman/Ruck, small forward. I can see that happening when Essendon is involved.
Overall, I hope Dunks comes out soon and says he is going nowhere, or the club says we are holding you to your contract - too bad sonny Jim.
Unless he publicly reaffirms his desire to stay at the club, this is just a horrible look for us. Other clubs will look at us as a team who cannot keep their fabric players all together. As GVGjr said, what about Naughts and Bailey Smith when they are next up for contract?
For mine it is not even important if the deal is done or not. What really matters is that it's an alleged decision by a young player, not even yet entering their prime and who is an impeccable citizen, that they don't believe in the future of the club.
Dynasty clubs hold their players together and take a collective pay cut to do so. Money is irrelevant if a player is truly happy, settled and believes in the future success of the club.
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25-10-2020, 03:11 PM
#411
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
chef
Yeah but they were wanting to come home to Victoria from another state. Dunkley wants to go to Essendon. Huge difference.
You are taking two journos at their word and it's not like he has an axe to grind with the club. You don't know for sure he doesn't want to be at the club either.
Do you really have a good reason for a half empty position with Dunkley?
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25-10-2020, 03:18 PM
#412
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
You are taking two journos at their word and it's not like he has an axe to grind with the club. You don't know for sure he doesn't want to be at the club either.
Do you really have a good reason for a half empty position with Dunkley?
I guess all we've got to go on is a handful of journos saying he wants out, we can pretend he wants to stay too but yeah we wont know until next week.
It cant always be kumbaya on here.
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25-10-2020, 03:24 PM
#413
Re: Trade Dunkley
This is the reverse version of BTs Tom Boyd thread, can we bash the person who started it?
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25-10-2020, 03:26 PM
#414
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
chef
Yeah but once someone doesnt want to be here, you dont keep them. Their hearts not in it and the fans will turn.
If he wants out see you later mate we dont want you either.
So if Bont or Naughton say they’d rather be elsewhere we’d just wave them on their way?
I also find it mind boggling that there are all these rules around draft tampering and equalisation yet it is ok to offer inducements to break a legally binding contract?
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25-10-2020, 03:30 PM
#415
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
The bulldog tragician
So if Bont or Naughton say they’d rather be elsewhere we’d just wave them on their way?
Sadly yes. If someone doesnt want to be here you trade them out.
Lets not mention Bont is this cursed thread with him coming out of contract at the end of next season.
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25-10-2020, 03:30 PM
#416
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
chef
As I've already asked, how would you know?
He may just want to play in his natural position and get payed well for it.
Yeah, I don't know what has happened in the past 6 months, but I do know he wrote the article posted in this thread not long ago, (not sure if you read it) and all the players call him the coaches pet. If he really wanted to go he would have come out and said so. What I can tell is he is mulling over the dollars.
Originally Posted by
azabob
We don't know anything for certain.
Essendon have seen an opportunity that Dunkely for whatever reason is not in our first choice midfield line up and have approached with a great opportunity on field and a whole lot of reasons off field to take it seriously.
I don't blame Essendon, I would do the same if I was them. they need an inside mid, we have plenty, so go for it. I do blame the AFL for not stopping this bullshit of breaking contracts.
As I said earlier what is to stop another team throwing big dollars at our other young players, or we doing the same. It is getting ridiculous.
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25-10-2020, 03:31 PM
#417
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
Sedat
Even if he nominates to leave and ends up staying, it is a massive indictment on our club that one of our best under 23 players, a model citizen and future leader, has allegedly decided he has no faith in the future direction of our club.
It's a good point. You'd wonder if the same scenario involved Shai Bolton would his head be turned as reportedly (I know source is questionable) Josh's has.
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25-10-2020, 03:36 PM
#418
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
It's a good point. You'd wonder if the same scenario involved Shai Bolton would his head be turned as reportedly (I know source is questionable) Josh's has.
My take is still the enormous salary thrown at him - very hard to resist. It is not always the clubs fault as many on here always purport.
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25-10-2020, 03:37 PM
#419
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
Sedat
Even if he nominates to leave and ends up staying, it is a massive indictment on our club that one of our best under 23 players, a model citizen and future leader, has allegedly decided he has no faith in the future direction of our club.
So.….it's a massive indictment on the club that another club is willing to double his wage, and employ his brother when nobody else would?
Not sure I see the logic Sedat.
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25-10-2020, 03:40 PM
#420
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
chef
This is the reverse version of BTs Tom Boyd thread, can we bash the person who started it?
Yep, you get two free ones and that's it. Make them count.
Is that how we talk tough on the internets?
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.