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05-11-2020, 06:27 PM
#1036
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
jeemak
So Dunkley views himself as at a minimum the third best and third most important midfielder at our club, but the club views him in his mind as the fourth.
He wants to go to a club where he is considered the best, and isn't having to be a role player.
Oh.....and there's the small matter of the money.
I'm actually OK with all of that. And I also think we hold firm for a massive massive over-payment from EFC or he stays and plays where and how we want him to.
This hasn't put any more pressure on us. The pressure on EFC to get the deal done now is astronomical.
He has never said he thinks he’s the best or even third or sixth best. What he said through Pickering is that he wants to be the main man and would have that opportunity at the Dodos. Maybe he realises how much better our other mids are and he won’t ever be that with us?
But you are also right in that the pressure is all on them and it is indeed astronomical.
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05-11-2020, 06:28 PM
#1037
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
SquirrelGrip
He has never said he thinks he’s the best or even third or sixth best. What he said through Pickering is that he wants to be the main man and would have that opportunity at the Dodos. Maybe he realises how much better our other mids are and he won’t ever be that with us?
But you are also right in that the pressure is all on them and it is indeed astronomical.
Would he be the main man in front of Merrett and Shiel, I seriously doubt it.
$$$$$$$$$$$
And that's OK. It's a job. But, loyalty goes both ways so buh bye Josh.
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05-11-2020, 06:29 PM
#1038
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
comrade
We should pick his brother up if he leaves.
One of his reasons for going to Essendon, besides the money, is Essendon promised him they would recruit his brother.
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05-11-2020, 06:30 PM
#1039
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
comrade
We should pick his brother up if he leaves.
Love it.
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05-11-2020, 06:32 PM
#1040
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Would he be the main man in front of Merrett and Shiel, I seriously doubt it.
$$$$$$$$$$$
And that's OK. It's a job. But, loyalty goes both ways so buh bye Josh.
They ain’t Bont and Macrae.
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05-11-2020, 06:33 PM
#1041
Re: Trade Dunkley
There's many moving parts here and I don't believe it's any ONE factor which leads to this.
Money - it's a big pay day. Main factor? Probably, but many-a-player has turned down big contracts for loyalty and team success of which now he hasn't done.
Positional - No doubt he didn't like playing second ruck and wants to be first mid.
Bevo - Sorry mate, but you're a factor in this one. Playing one of our best mids as second ruck was idiotic.
Opportunity - He can look after his brother financially.
Disappointing and I'd really question Dunkley as a leader now. In fact I'll say it straight - you're not a leader's ass, Josh. A real leader doesn't run for money, sook over playing varying positions and put himself before the team which is EXACTLY what he's doing by requesting a trade.
Looking at it objectively, we can maybe afford to trade him IF we get a deal we like. I'm not sure we should ask for any draft pick - a future first, maybe, but I think I'd rather try and target the combo of Treloar and Stephenson for Dunkley. We need talent that can contribute NOW, not a stab-in-the-dark and look-how-young-we-are draft pick.
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05-11-2020, 06:34 PM
#1042
Re: Trade Dunkley
So disappointing from Dunks.
I fear we will be worse off with him leaving, if we cave.
We do hold the whip hand, and I sincerely hope we stick to our guns.
I will be livid if we somehow blink and wind up with Treloar or Stephenson.
Dunks you're here for 2 more years, make the most of it.
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05-11-2020, 06:39 PM
#1043
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
SquirrelGrip
He has never said he thinks he’s the best or even third or sixth best. What he said through Pickering is that he wants to be the main man and would have that opportunity at the Dodos. Maybe he realises how much better our other mids are and he won’t ever be that with us?
But you are also right in that the pressure is all on them and it is indeed astronomical.
Possibly you're right. But I'd not be surprised if some of the triggering for looking elsewhere is coming from think HE should be a main midfielder for us.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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05-11-2020, 06:39 PM
#1044
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
So disappointing from Dunks.
I fear we will be worse off with him leaving, if we cave.
We do hold the whip hand, and I sincerely hope we stick to our guns.
I will be livid if we somehow blink and wind up with Treloar or Stephenson.
Dunks you're here for 2 more years, make the most of it.
Really? I'd be rapt if we got Treloar for Dunkley, he's exactly what we need.
Dunkley said a lot by saying nothing the other day, I knew he wanted to go and like I said the other day good riddance. We need to make the most out of this and get some much needed polish into this team and not just settle for a pick.
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05-11-2020, 06:44 PM
#1045
Re: Trade Dunkley
Pretty disappointed in Dunkley, he is one of the last players I would've expected to put their hand up for this. I hope he knows what he is getting himself into, Essendon are a joke. If he is worried about unprofessionalism he's gonna love going to a club that employs Jake Stringer and is happy to draft players purely because their brother is on the list and not because they've earned it (Kyle reportedly).
We need to at a minimum get their 2021 first rounder as well as another first rounder either this year or next, and use that latter pick to improve our list not merely replace Dunkley.
Originally Posted by
DOG GOD
I have a feeling dodo will win this one over power. I’m thinking pick 7 will do it. We will fold under the pressure. And it will be done so late in the friggin trade period, that we will be stuck with pick 7 and it will be sucked up with Jamarra. Yep I know this is worse case scenario, but this IS the dogs I’m talking about.
We won't be stuck with it as such because trade period ending is only the point where you can't trade players anymore, draft picks (including future ones) can be traded up until you use them, so pick 7 could be traded at any point should we receive it.
I should leave it alone but you're not right
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05-11-2020, 06:49 PM
#1046
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
I will be livid if we somehow blink and wind up with Treloar or Stephenson.
Agreed, if we parlay Dunkley into those 2, I'll be unhappy as neither really address the huge structural issues we have (and Stephenson in particular is almost as flaky as Bailey Dale).
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05-11-2020, 06:49 PM
#1047
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
soupaman
Pretty disappointed in Dunkley, he is one of the last players I would've expected to put their hand up for this. I hope he knows what he is getting himself into, Essendon are a joke. If he is worried about unprofessionalism he's gonna love going to a club that employs Jake Stringer and is happy to draft players purely because their brother is on the list and not because they've earned it (Kyle reportedly).
Maybe he'll learn 'the grass isn't always greener on the other side' lesson. But it will be too late.
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05-11-2020, 06:53 PM
#1048
Re: Trade Dunkley
Just venting ...
Clear-eyed me can comprehend the nuts and bolts of what's brought us here.
But filthy me is seething we're vulnerable to a rival, let alone those detestable pricks, just waltzing in and poaching a young member of our core.
It's okay though, we're getting Mitch Hannan.
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05-11-2020, 06:55 PM
#1049
Re: Trade Dunkley
Originally Posted by
cinder
Maybe he'll learn 'the grass isn't always greener on the other side' lesson. But it will be too late.
Yeah but the floors are softer. Luxuriantly so.
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05-11-2020, 06:55 PM
#1050
Re: Trade Dunkley
We are gonna absolutely raped in this deal. We dont ever seem to hold people to contracts. I hope power has a set of nuts
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