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20-09-2021, 11:07 AM
#226
Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Have we discussed King at any length? I don’t remember him being a topic of debate.
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20-09-2021, 11:13 AM
#227
Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Have we discussed King at any length? I don’t remember him being a topic of debate.
Just in the context of all the assistants being yes men
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20-09-2021, 11:15 AM
#228
Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Assistant coaches are really self-fulfilling. If the team is good then they’re highly rated and if the team is bad then they’re nobodies. Unless they’re “highly rated” in which case they’re highly rated.
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20-09-2021, 11:44 AM
#229
Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
hujsh
Just in the context of all the assistants being yes men
Yes - posters wanting someone that is not a yes man and inferring King is.
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20-09-2021, 01:12 PM
#230
Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Have we discussed King at any length? I don’t remember him being a topic of debate.
Not specific that I'm aware of although it's interesting that both North and then Essendon put in calls for Giansiracusa and I can't recall King being in the mix for senior roles. He seems to be a good coach but there are plenty of them out there.
I suspect we will keep him.
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20-09-2021, 01:45 PM
#231
Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
hujsh
Just in the context of all the assistants being yes men
I love the yes-men concept. It tells a story of a lovely blend of sycophantism and insecurity.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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20-09-2021, 03:40 PM
#232
Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Yes - posters wanting someone that is not a yes man and inferring King is.
I don't think there is anything wrong with having some assistants who are willing to challenge things especially after 2016.
Lets face it none of the coaches appear to have done enough when Boyd and Cloke were being bullied and when, as you confirmed, Jong was being racially abused.
This is what appeals to me about the likes of a Matthew Boyd or a Brett Montgomery because I'm as confident as I can be that they wouldn't walk past players getting ahead of themselves.
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20-09-2021, 04:33 PM
#233
Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I don't think there is anything wrong with having some assistants who are willing to challenge things especially after 2016.
Of course, but most people dismissed Steven King as being that sort of person. I don;'t think one person rated him.
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Lets face it none of the coaches appear to have done enough when Boyd and Cloke were being bullied and when, as you confirmed, Jong was being racially abused.
How do you know that didn't happen?
No coincidence that Bevo wanted Stringer and Dahlhaus out, and LIbba was given a stern talking to.
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
This is what appeals to me about the likes of a Matthew Boyd or a Brett Montgomery because I'm as confident as I can be that they wouldn't walk past players getting ahead of themselves.
How do you know the current coaches don't do that?
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20-09-2021, 05:18 PM
#234
Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Of course, but most people dismissed Steven King as being that sort of person. I don;'t think one person rated him.
How do you know that didn't happen?
No coincidence that Bevo wanted Stringer and Dahlhaus out, and LIbba was given a stern talking to.
Which players got stood down? Both bullying and racial comments demand that sort of action and not waiting until the end of the season and jettisoning just one player.
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20-09-2021, 05:19 PM
#235
Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Carlton clean out complete - the last assistant standing Cameron Bruce has gone to Brisbane.
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20-09-2021, 06:42 PM
#236
Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Which players got stood down? Both bullying and racial comments demand that sort of action and not waiting until the end of the season and jettisoning just one player.
I don't know the detail of what went on, but does the discipline of this belong to the assistant coaches?
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20-09-2021, 07:02 PM
#237
Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
I don't know the detail of what went on, but does the discipline of this belong to the assistant coaches?
I think it highlights that we have been inconsistent with the way dealt with challenges after the triumphant 2016 season and that falls onto the club and coaches.
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20-09-2021, 07:24 PM
#238
Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Whose left for us as a senior assistant? Clarkson? Buckley? Harvey? Sanderson? Teague?
A loss, but a great chance to bring in some new ideas and broad experience. Might be an opportunity to find a player who wants to follow them into our club.
Teague to Richmond.
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22-09-2021, 04:17 PM
#239
Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Robert Harvey has joined the Hawks.
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22-09-2021, 06:32 PM
#240
Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Teague to Richmond.
He must be highly rated
Good to see that he has not been lost to football.