List Management for 2020/21

[bornadog]

Bulldogs still waiting on Treloar's medical results

By Sam McClure and Michael Gleeson

Sources say the Bulldogs and Collingwood are in negotiations for a trade for Adam Treloar that is not contingent on the Bulldogs making a trade for Josh Dunkley, who wants a move from the Bulldogs to Essendon.

The Western Bulldogs were still awaiting the full results of Treloar's medical on Wednesday evening.
The medical was performed on Tuesday afternoon.

The Bulldogs have specialists looking over Treloar's historical scans, particularly in the last two years when the dynamic midfielder has suffered from hamstring and calf issues.

[Bulldog Revolution]

He wont cost much to acquire (presumably some future pick value so they can stockpile for Daicos), but he will cost a lot of salary

I'm not convinced he's going to be worth that salary or that we should be making a last minute decision on his health

[jeemak]

He wont cost much to acquire, but he will cost a lot of salary

I'm not convinced he's going to be worth that salary or that we should be making a last minute decision on his health

Reckon a couple of days with all history on the table and direct interviews with the player and other staff etc. would be sufficient, surely?

[GVGjr]

He wont cost much to acquire, but he will cost a lot of salary

I'm not convinced he's going to be worth that salary or that we should be making a last minute decision on his health

There is now some speculation that the Pies might contribute as much as 250K per season
If true that probably puts him into a fairer value situation for us

[Bulldog Revolution]

Reckon a couple of days with all history on the table and direct interviews with the player and other staff etc. would be sufficient, surely?

Has me a little worried, but Im over the whole event now

Its a pure salary dump isnt it - future fourth rounder?

[Bulldog Revolution]

There is now some speculation that the Pies might contribute as much as 250K per season
If true that probably puts him into a fairer value situation for us

Theres been times where I've really liked Treloar as a player - but I had hoped he could play on a wing for us

[jeemak]

There is now some speculation that the Pies might contribute as much as 250K per season
If true that probably puts him into a fairer value situation for us

Yeah, if we're paying him $650K per season and his medical assessment checks out then I think it's a risk very much worth taking.

[jazzadogs]

650k is a far more palatable salary and would make me a lot more comfortable with a trade.

If it is being completed separate to any Dunkley trade, then I would assume it is involving 2021 picks (as we can't afford to lose any 2020 points) and maybe Dale/Schache? What are some options?

Dale/Schache and future 2nd for Treloar and future 3rd?

Dale/Schache and future 1st for Treloar and their future 2nd?

Potentially some pick swapping for this year...our 54 for their 39 or 42?

[jazzadogs]

Lot of ifs there though. What if Smith and Naughton decided we weren't close enough to contending in 2 years and wanted to go elsewhere? What if English wanted to go home in 2 years? What if Hunter was enticed to chase another flag at Richmond?

Whilst all clubs need to keep an eye on the future, you can only really deal with what's in front of you for the now.

As much as some of us have had a laugh at Collingwood's expense, and their salary cap situation is a little extreme (clearly overpaying NUMEROUS players, even undeserving ones like Stephenson / Cox / Phillips - then there's Beams), they tried to wind up and have a big crack at a flag. They were a couple of points away from it largely being a success. At least they were bold (and a little stupid, clearly).

With some fine tuning, I have no issues with Collingwood's approach and hope we apply a similar aggressive touch.

There are definitely a lot of ifs, I guess that's half the point of the discussion. I would be worried if our list management team weren't considering scenarios like that, planning at least 3-5 years ahead, and minimising the risk of us losing a Bazlenka/Naughton/English.

I think Treloar on 800-900k increases that risk too much, assuming Bont, Macrae, Daniel, Hunter, ?JJ? are already being paid well and Baz/Naughton/English/Dunkley etc want their pay days in the future. But I am very much an amateur in this discussion, with no background in finance/team management.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

There are definitely a lot of ifs, I guess that's half the point of the discussion. I would be worried if our list management team weren't considering scenarios like that, planning at least 3-5 years ahead, and minimising the risk of us losing a Bazlenka/Naughton/English.

I think Treloar on 800-900k increases that risk too much, assuming Bont, Macrae, Daniel, Hunter, ?JJ? are already being paid well and Baz/Naughton/English/Dunkley etc want their pay days in the future. But I am very much an amateur in this discussion, with no background in finance/team management.

Agreed, I have faith in SP to make the right call one way or another with Dunkley and Treloar.

If anything, Collingwood's situation has better prepared the rest of us to avoid similar circumstances.

[Twodogs]

Has anyone heard anything about Joel Hamling and a return to the DOGS. Would be an ideal pick up and make our defence a lot more attacking by releasing Wood and/or Keith to intercept.

There was talk (fanciful talk I thought) at the beginning of the trade period. I don't think it will happen.

[Mofra]

There is now some speculation that the Pies might contribute as much as 250K per season
If true that probably puts him into a fairer value situation for us

For one year or five? I'm more worried about the last couple of years of his contract than the first couple.

[wimberga]

Mitch Cleary saying this morning that Treloar is making his mind up on whether he wants to move.

We have met with the pies and if Treloar does move to us, the expectation is for it to be a second rounder next year.

[GVGjr]

For one year or five? I'm more worried about the last couple of years of his contract than the first couple.

The way heard it was for 3 of the 5 years so your concerns would still be valid. I guess it doesn't rule out the potential to renegotiate with Treloar

[comrade]

Mitch Cleary saying this morning that Treloar is making his mind up on whether he wants to move.

We have met with the pies and if Treloar does move to us, the expectation is for it to be a second rounder next year.

Future 2nd seems decent value but Collingwood would need to cough up a decent chunk of his wage. His value has been trashed by the Pies.

Can't see how we fit Dunkley and Treloar in the same midfield and both on decent dollars, so suggests we're planning on doing a deal with Essendon.