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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    The more I think about the ruck situation, the more I think we will have English, sweet, Bruce and Dunkley/Jong as our rucks next year. Bevo’s ego doesn’t care about the ruck situation, and I can’t see him changing...I’d be shocked actually.
    I will never see #16 the same!!

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by DOG GOD View Post
    The more I think about the ruck situation, the more I think we will have English, sweet, Bruce and Dunkley/Jong as our rucks next year. Bevo’s ego doesn’t care about the ruck situation, and I can’t see him changing...I’d be shocked actually.
    I'm surprised it took you this long to come to that conclusion!!
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bulldogs Bite View Post
    Where do you play them all?
    Same can be said with all the HBFs/HFFs and Mids in the team.

    Bevo would only recruit a player that can play multi roles, so the young guy could be FF, or backline?

    I have asked many times on the board how many rucks do we need as GVGjr keeps saying we don't have enough.

    So you are saying three rucks is enough on a list?
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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    I'm surprised it took you this long to come to that conclusion!!
    And why’s that ?
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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Pretty sure we will trade our first round pick (12) for as many picks as possible to make up the JUH points needed.

    Other than that, we most likely will target to trade for a keyback, and a small forward and then we will be done.

    We also should be drafting a young developing athletic ruckman for the future.
    Total draft value index points more so than the numbers of picks but I get your point
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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Same can be said with all the HBFs/HFFs and Mids in the team.

    Bevo would only recruit a player that can play multi roles, so the young guy could be FF, or backline?

    I have asked many times on the board how many rucks do we need as GVGjr keeps saying we don't have enough.

    So you are saying three rucks is enough on a list?
    I agree which is why I have lamented how many flankers we continue to draft, as recently as Butler in 2019. How many is enough!? Having to play half backs at half forward in a final is evidence to suggest we've overdone it.

    3 pure rucks is absolutely enough. By pure, I'm talking about English/Sweet types who play 90% of their footy in the ruck. I'm not counting the likes of Trengove/Bruce who can pinch hit.

    Ideally 3 rucks (2 ready to go, 1 developer) and 1-2 capable of pinch hitting is fine.

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogsthru&thru View Post
    Who would be on high coin for us Jeemak?

    Bont
    JJ
    Bruce
    Macrae?

    And how many are currently performing up to their price tag? JJ and Bruce certainly aren’t.

    Naughton and English will certainly command it soon. As will Bailey Smith. The saints will need to factor future growth of their young stars too. Billings will want more. Steele only signed for two years and after his AA selection he’ll want a juicy contract. Then you’ve got Coffield and Clark who’ll attract decent coin. If Butler keeps this seasons form up, he’ll get a decent pay rise as would Marshall and Gresham. They’re still throwing money around so they’ll need to be careful with an eye to retaining their current young guns. The challenge for the saints will be maintaining the rage. The newness will be gone next season and the expectations much higher. Oppositions will also be familiar with them.
    Jazzadogs provided a pretty good answer. Our big earners would be the guys you mentioned, with Dunks, Daniel, Hunter, Wood and Crozier within the next bracket, or about to be in the next bracket.

    Agree with what you've said about the Saints, they're going to be feeling the pinch pretty quickly.
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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Same can be said with all the HBFs/HFFs and Mids in the team.

    Bevo would only recruit a player that can play multi roles, so the young guy could be FF, or backline?

    I have asked many times on the board how many rucks do we need as GVGjr keeps saying we don't have enough.

    So you are saying three rucks is enough on a list?
    I don’t understand why we must have everyone playing multiple roles.

    It has held us down for years. The players who got the premiership generally did one thing well.

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by Danjul View Post
    I don’t understand why we must have everyone playing multiple roles.

    It has held us down for years. The players who got the premiership generally did one thing well.
    Money ball !
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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Robbie Tarrant would be a good get if he wants out of Norf.

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Not sure how much truth is in it, but twice today I've been asked about rumour floating around Dunks is unhappy with the ruck role and wants out if it is going to continue.
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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by KT31 View Post
    Not sure how much truth is in it, but twice today I've been asked about rumour floating around Dunks is unhappy with the ruck role and wants out if it is going to continue.
    That sounds like something made up on big footy.

    October - Trade silly season
    Dunkley - good player.
    Bulldogs - bad ruck situation which sees Dunks the midfielder taking ruck contests
    Big Footy - Dunks wants out because he has to do ruck work

    In all honesty I wouldn't blame Dunks for being pi**ed at having to compete in the ruck. But I'm sure he would have voiced his displeasure if he was indeed annoyed. And if Bevo continued to force him to do it then we've got some big problems down there.

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogsthru&thru View Post
    That sounds like something made up on big footy.

    October - Trade silly season
    Dunkley - good player.
    Bulldogs - bad ruck situation which sees Dunks the midfielder taking ruck contests
    Big Footy - Dunks wants out because he has to do ruck work

    In all honesty I wouldn't blame Dunks for being pi**ed at having to compete in the ruck. But I'm sure he would have voiced his displeasure if he was indeed annoyed. And if Bevo continued to force him to do it then we've got some big problems down there.
    Dunks is unanimously chosen as the coaches pet by all the other players.

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    Dunks is unanimously chosen as the coaches pet by all the other players.
    Roarke Smith doesn't like this b
    "It's over. It's all over."

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by KT31 View Post
    Not sure how much truth is in it, but twice today I've been asked about rumour floating around Dunks is unhappy with the ruck role and wants out if it is going to continue.
    Who knows if we will ever consider trading Dunks but I'd be confident in saying that the rumour is well off the mark
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