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05-11-2020, 09:39 PM
#1066
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
bornadog
He better get fit.
Played 8 games this season. Missed most of the year with a stress fracture in his back. So yeah, we'll struggle to get a full season out of him.
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05-11-2020, 09:39 PM
#1067
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Martin's been a dead set workhorse for years in Brisbane, largely solo, he's an animal, it wasn't until this year he was hampered by a PCL and back issues he never really shrugged off.
If he's fit he instantly improves our stoppage game and affords Bevo the more aggressive / proactive look he's been pining for this year. He's also a model citizen.
This is the textbook definition of low risk, high reward.
Get around him boys and girls.
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05-11-2020, 09:40 PM
#1068
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
Rocket Science
Martin's been a dead set workhorse for years in Brisbane, largely solo, he's an animal, it wasn't until this year he was hampered by a PCL and back issues he never really shrugged off.
If he's fit he instantly improves our stoppage game and affords Bevo the more aggressive / proactive look he's been pining for this year. He's also a model citizen.
This is the textbook definition of low risk, high reward.
Get around him boys and girls.
I think a one year deal, plus coaching after that would be ideal
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05-11-2020, 09:42 PM
#1069
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
Rocket Science
A season of this at negligible cost?
Sign me up.
Further, we can't be shocked 'sexier' options have knocked us back given they're being enlisted to help school the bloke that's going to usurp them, as soon as humanly possible ideally.
That’s a weird looking Todd Goldstein.
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05-11-2020, 09:42 PM
#1070
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
Played 8 games this season. Missed most of the year with a stress fracture in his back. So yeah, we'll struggle to get a full season out of him.
You missed the bit where he played 24, 22, 22, 20 and 20 the five years prior.
I'm guessing we don't even bother if we're not content he's beyond the niggles that hampered him this year.
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05-11-2020, 09:42 PM
#1071
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
bornadog
I think a one year deal, plus coaching after that would be ideal
Two years playing if his form is good is ok with me
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05-11-2020, 09:42 PM
#1072
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Great. Another half measure because its easier and no one has to admit they’re wrong. Hope he can teach English his bicep curl technique because Tim’s already a better ruckman.
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05-11-2020, 09:44 PM
#1073
Re: List Management for 2020/21
I’m happy with Martin. He’s an experienced ruck who can chip English out but more importantly show him how it’s supposed to be done on the training track. We were never going to get a perfect option. They’re either too expensive to get or impossible to get. Goldstein would have been perfect but he would have cost a fortune by the sound of it. You would hope we asked though.
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05-11-2020, 09:47 PM
#1074
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
The Underdog
That’s a weird looking Todd Goldstein.
Don't tell Happy Days, just tell him he is
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05-11-2020, 09:47 PM
#1075
Re: List Management for 2020/21
This also means we probably won’t ask about Draper. Because that would involve work and trying to get an asset worth more than nothing when a half measure will do.
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05-11-2020, 09:47 PM
#1076
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
Rocket Science
You missed the bit where he played 24, 22, 22, 20 and 20 the five years prior.
I'm guessing we don't even bother if we're not content he's beyond the niggles that hampered him this year.
I'm not dead against it, just don't have high expectations especially considering the injury he's come back from at his age. People thinking our prayers have been answered need to dial it back a lot.
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05-11-2020, 09:49 PM
#1077
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
I'm not dead against it, just don't have high expectations especially considering the injury he's come back from at his age. People thinking our prayers have been answered need to dial it back a lot.
Yeah he is not ideal, and I don't think he can do more that ruck these days, so will be on and off the bench
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05-11-2020, 09:53 PM
#1078
Re: List Management for 2020/21
I did think Ryder was done when he went to the Saints and instead he had a good 2020, so I'm hopeful for Martin. How long have we signed him for though because anything more than one year is brave.
It does have a bit of a kicking the can down the road vibe though, is English gonna be a proper first ruck in a years time? Would've liked Goldstein for obvious reasons or for us to really make a long term play for someone like Peter Ladhams or Bailey Williams.
I should leave it alone but you're not right
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05-11-2020, 09:56 PM
#1079
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Great. Another half measure because its easier and no one has to admit they’re wrong. Hope he can teach English his bicep curl technique because Tim’s already a better ruckman.
Am more than favourably predisposed to your 'half measures' ire - believe me - but Stef's not that guy.
Short of somehow dynamiting an ensconced first ruck out of somewhere, which ain't happening, this one makes rational sense.
If he gets/stays on the park I'm tipping we're pinching ourselves by round 6 at the looks he's giving our mids who finally have a ruckman who can offer them adequate service.
That alone bodes well.
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05-11-2020, 10:06 PM
#1080
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Seems like we can only get players from other clubs not required by their club. Hannan (who Melb wouldn’t care if they lost), Martin (who probably wouldn’t get a new contract with reduced lists), and Lonie (pushed out coz Higgins is a better player).
Great trading right there.
I will never see #16 the same!!