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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    Reminded again today that Fergus Greene has been on the list for 4 years and played 5 games, all in 2018 and Brad Lynch has been on the list for 5 years, played 9 games all in 2018.

    9 years combined for 14 games, all occuring in one season.

    That is legendary eker status and neither of them are over 200cm!

    Absolute list management insanity.
    Geez it does look really bad when you list it like that. Pure insanity.
    I will never see #16 the same!!

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by DOG GOD View Post
    Geez it does look really bad when you list it like that. Pure insanity.
    Fingers crossed Sam Power has the mettle to whip the list into shape because at the moment, it is carrying some serious dead weight.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    Fingers crossed Sam Power has the mettle to whip the list into shape because at the moment, it is carrying some serious dead weight.
    Yep, we could easily cull 6-7 of these above types
    I will never see #16 the same!!

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    Reminded again today that Fergus Greene has been on the list for 4 years and played 5 games, all in 2018 and Brad Lynch has been on the list for 5 years, played 9 games all in 2018.

    9 years combined for 14 games, all occuring in one season.

    That is legendary eker status and neither of them are over 200cm!

    Absolute list management insanity.
    id keep Greene, shows some very good potential, was kicking big bags in scratch matches this season, talked about highly at the club as well.
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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by Vred View Post
    id keep Greene, shows some very good potential, was kicking big bags in scratch matches this season, talked about highly at the club as well.
    Injury has cruelled him but 4 years is long enough.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by Vred View Post
    id keep Greene, shows some very good potential, was kicking big bags in scratch matches this season, talked about highly at the club as well.
    How long can you keep him? He will be 23 in December and played 5 games.

    We need to cull at least 7 players or even more if we can.

    Retired/Delist
    Dickson - done
    La Young - done
    Greene
    Lynch
    Gowers,
    Porter,

    Maybe
    Kharmis
    Hayes
    Cavarra
    Trengove unless we can't get another ruck
    Suckling - retire?

    Almost
    Dunks

    Hanging in there due to contract
    Dale
    Lloyd
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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    How long can you keep him? He will be 23 in December and played 5 games.

    We need to cull at least 7 players or even more if we can.

    Retired/Delist
    Dickson - done
    La Young - done
    Greene
    Lynch
    Gowers,
    Porter,

    Maybe
    Kharmis
    Hayes
    Cavarra
    Trengove unless we can't get another ruck
    Suckling - retire?

    Almost
    Dunks

    Hanging in there due to contract
    Dale
    Lloyd
    If we got Hannan and Lonie for instance, then Cavarra is GONE.
    Greene, Lynch, Gowers and Porter are definite outs for mine with Hayes hanging by a thread.
    I think Trengove and Suckling will hinge on list size.
    I will never see #16 the same!!

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    I don't understand Lynch being kept after 2019, though Greene I can given he was injured for the majority of 2019. The numbers on paper for Greene look ordinary, but dig a little deeper and they're fine.
    Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by Vred View Post
    id keep Greene, shows some very good potential, was kicking big bags in scratch matches this season, talked about highly at the club as well.
    Yes, "potential" - but we're picking up Hannan who leapfrogs him, surely. Bailey Dale (if he stays) is ahead of Fergus. Sam Lloyd probably ahead of him as well, and is contracted for 2021. JUH would probably play ahead of him next year.

    Kieran McGuinness kicked three goal on Brian Lake in match simulation one pre-season too. In an ideal world we'd be able to keep guys like Greene but list spots will be tight and we're bringing in three kids and Hannan at a minimum, and have flagged that as a team we really don;t want to be getting younger so would consider more mature talent as well.
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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by westbulldog View Post
    Yes to Gunston. Agreed - Bullshit media hype stories: Josh Dunkley and yes to Esava Ratugoleas who at 22 has a huge upside. Mason Cox - what planet are we on ?
    You know that just because he is 22 there isn't necessarily a huge upside. I suspect he might have already peaked
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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    I don't understand Lynch being kept after 2019
    After his performance in 2018, he got a two year extension.
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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    It has been a difficult season this one for the players playing little or next to nothing games in the seniors and no VFL. Playing only practice matches. Hard to make decisions on who should be dismissed.

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    After his performance in 2018, he got a two year extension.
    If I had a resource to check these things before I posted about them it would make life a whole lot easier!

    Apologies Axe, I'll be more careful next time!

    Wonder if we shopped him around at the end of last year.
    Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    You know that just because he is 22 there isn't necessarily a huge upside. I suspect he might have already peaked
    Apparently he only played 4 full years of footy before being drafted. I think it's more likely that he still has some improvement left in him than him having already peaked as a tall at just 22, with less experience than most his age.

    From the bits and pieces I've seen of him he seemed to often do something brilliant, soon followed by something boneheaded. However I think it was the Richmond game late in the season that changed my opinion of him somewhat, marking everything that came his way. I would definitely be interested.

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    Re: List Management for 2020/21

    Folks have rated him extremely highly as an up and coming prospect in the past. I haven't seen enough of him, but like Axe what I have seen seems often to be something great followed up by a sprayed kick or something completely stupid.
    Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.

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