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06-10-2020, 12:49 PM
#496
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
soupaman
He is, which means its frustrating to see him not being dropped for being so much worse than he should be. I don't get to keep my job because I have the potential to do it to a competent standard.
I agree. It's perplexing how he kept his spot all season yet Schache gets banished for one poor game in the wet.
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06-10-2020, 12:49 PM
#497
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
comrade
I'm hopeful Garcia brings some pace and intensity to our forward line.
These are the two fundamental qualities we need to bring into our side. Oh and a ruckman.
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06-10-2020, 01:29 PM
#498
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
The Doctor
What about Chris Grant?
I think Schache has not been handled all that well by the club this year. There are certainly things in his game the club wants him to better at which is fair enough but they also came out and publicly said he needed to be more aggressive, physical etc. It implied he wouldn't play until he developed that side of his game.
What I don't get then is the hypocrisy of then playing Lipinski who is arguably the softest player on our list and was a complete liability in a final for the 2nd year in a row.
As I said in another thread I think our forward line functions better, generally, with Schache in it. He leads well, is more mobile than Bruce, and a very good set shot. In 2019 with him in the team we were the 3rd highest scoring team. This year without him, but Bruce in, we were the 6th highest scoring team.
I'd like to see us persevere with Schache a bit more.
Schache clearly doesn’t meet any of the benchmarks the club has set for inclusion in the team. And that’s fair enough, we have lofty aspirations and have set the bar higher than most players can achieve.
Specialists like him need an certain environment that allows them to apply their talents, and what the Dogs are developing is not appropriate for everyone.
The club is clearly searching for a blend of Gowers, Bruce, Richards, Gardner etc. You know, that blend of speed, aggression, batshit crazy and rawness that opposition coaches will not be able to handle. Anyone out there that fits the bill can simply walk into the team. You are clearly our launch pad to another great year (like the last four).
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06-10-2020, 01:42 PM
#499
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
soupaman
That's why I brought up Brennan Cox earlier. Pearce is their first choice tall defender (along with Logue), but was injured a fair bit of this year. Pearce is very good, and they'll be keen to keep him. But they won't play all three of those guys, meaning Cox, who acquitted himself quite well in the absence of the other two should be available and for a reasonable price.
I would be happy to go for Pearce but he will cost a lot more and is very injury prone.
I raised Cox in this very thread back in August. I now get the impression being an SA boy, Crows are in the box seat.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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06-10-2020, 01:56 PM
#500
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
azabob
I raised Cox in this very thread back in August. I now get the impression being an SA boy, Crows are in the box seat.
It's a good call, I'm hoping that Adelaide are content with their developing talls like Butts and Doedee (and maybe Lewis Young).
I should leave it alone but you're not right
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06-10-2020, 01:58 PM
#501
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Its amazing how much Daicos has improved this year, with his brother coming in soon I can't see him leaving but someone is going to fall out of Collingwood that's for sure. I'm hoping we are are sitting in the slips ready willing and able to take a catch.
I still think we should be all over Narkle at Geelong he has the flexibility that Bevo likes and can win his own ball which is handy for a small forward/mid. Perfect Mclean replacement and can tackle too.
Whats peoples thoughts on Darcy Mac? I'd happily swap him for Cav from what I've seen at this stage. We do have VDM, West and Garcia to add a little hard edge but Darcy might be worth a crack at a cheap price if we miss on others. Only kicked 4 goals this year which is a bit of a worry, but just from the eye his pressure is very good.
There is a defender that took my eye at Port called Lienert, only seen him once but played a great game against Collingwood, but was dropped for the final. He is an SA boy but been on the list a few years now without much opportunity might be worth a look.
Love to get Hammer back obviously, really like him as a player
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06-10-2020, 02:02 PM
#502
Re: List Management for 2020/21
I think McPherson and West are quite similiar so would be reluctant to pursue him too hard when we have other types more in need.
I agree i think we should be all over Narkle.
I should leave it alone but you're not right
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06-10-2020, 02:06 PM
#503
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
azabob
I raised Cox in this very thread back in August. I now get the impression being an SA boy, Crows are in the box seat.
So. Many. Double. Entendres.
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06-10-2020, 02:21 PM
#504
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
These are the two fundamental qualities we need to bring into our side. Oh and a ruckman.
Hear hear we need a harder edge. I do giggle a little when the media keep brining up 2016 when we make finals that's the definition of lazy journalism, the side is totally different. The other thing they get wrong is that we actually finished 2015 regular season 5th, we didn't come from 13th the year prior.
Picken, M.Boyd. Morris, Clay, Dahl, Biggsy, Libba thats the harder edge we are talking about. Our pressure on Saturday was like a regular season game until we fix it we will continue to fail when the big games role around.
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06-10-2020, 03:00 PM
#505
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
azabob
I raised Cox in this very thread back in August. I now get the impression being an SA boy, Crows are in the box seat.
Cox has just signed a two year extension (this week).
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06-10-2020, 03:13 PM
#506
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
kruder
Hear hear we need a harder edge. I do giggle a little when the media keep brining up 2016 when we make finals that's the definition of lazy journalism, the side is totally different. The other thing they get wrong is that we actually finished 2015 regular season 5th, we didn't come from 13th the year prior.
Picken, M.Boyd. Morris, Clay, Dahl, Biggsy, Libba thats the harder edge we are talking about. Our pressure on Saturday was like a regular season game until we fix it we will continue to fail when the big games role around.
I think after the GWS game this year, we really turned it around and didn't get pushed around like in the past. As Bont said, the group has matured and know how to deal with teams coming after them.
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06-10-2020, 03:25 PM
#507
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
bornadog
I think after the GWS game this year, we really turned it around and didn't get pushed around like in the past. As Bont said, the group has matured and know how to deal with teams coming after them.
Just have to get better at going after other teams now.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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06-10-2020, 04:27 PM
#508
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
bornadog
True.
We have played Naughton, Bruce and English up forward, so 2MP, could interchange with English - Ruck/Forward, so maybe we don't move either?
Can Schache be reinvented as a backman, ala Liam Jones
Why the hell did we throw Roughie on the scrap heap!!! Can ruck can play back. It's the worst thing we could have done.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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06-10-2020, 04:43 PM
#509
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
1eyedog
Why the hell did we throw Roughie on the scrap heap!!! Can ruck can play back. It's the worst thing we could have done.
Why we turfed Roughead and brought in Trengove was puzzling at the time and has not become any less so since.
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06-10-2020, 04:44 PM
#510
Re: List Management for 2020/21
I said at the time it was a stupid move; Roughy had JT covered as both a ruck AND key defender.
Nothing has changed since.
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