List Management for 2020/21

[bornadog]

Ruckmen clearly used to be a lot more nuggety.

Legend, and Champion Brownlow medalist, John Schultz was 191cm.

[Templeton31]

Ruckmen clearly used to be a lot more nuggety.

His leap was unbelievable tho.

[G-Mo77]

If Hannan has replaced Gowers on the list, has the list improved?

If Stef Martin replaces Trengove on the list, has the list improved?

If Treloar replaces Dunkley on the list, has the list improved?

It seems like a very sideways trade period for us at the moment, at best.

I do like the Treloar move. Contract is alarming but IMO we would be better with him over Dunkley.

The other 2 are following the same path of all our "moneyball" selections over the last few years. Martin I'm lukewarm on, it'll certainly help English to have a seasoned ruck beside him but are we too late to bringing him in? Hannan for nostalgic reasons I like but yeah, it doesn't improve us at all.

These are our trades/FA signings since we won the flag and this doesn't show who we've lost or let go in that time. It's horrific! Crozier and Keath are the only 2 pass marks, the rest are coming here to extend their careers a little longer. We have seem to have this strategy that a teams trash is our treasure, wasted lists spots, wasted game time when they've actually played. We'd have been better off scouring the state leagues and recruiting from there rather than bringing in most of these guys.

Cloke 2016
Crozier 2017
Schache 2017
Trengove 2017
Lloyd 2018
Duryea 2018
Bruce 2019
Keath 2019

[azabob]

Scott Wynd was 102 cm and 108kg.
Minson: 199 And 106 kg.

English is 106 cm and 100 kg.
Simply the wrong proportions to succeed against wrestlers.

English can’t compete against greater power density, the laws of physics are against him. His opponents can use leverage against him.

Excellent design for a second ruck though. They don’t usually have to compete against monsters. And he is so talented in all other aspects.

If fit Martin might be a good interim move. Need to find a shorter/heavier ruckman for the long term. I suspect the whole team will seem better with this one modification.

How many wrestlers are in the league these days?

Grundy 202 - 100kg
Nik Nat 201 - 110kg
Goldstien 201 - 102kg
Nankervis 199 - 102kg
Gawn 208 - 109kg

I'd argue English struggles against players who are his equivalent in mobility Ryder, Marshall, Grundy, etc.

[Bulldog Joe]

How many wrestlers are in the league these days?

Grundy 202 - 100kg
Nik Nat 201 - 110kg
Goldstien 201 - 102kg
Nankervis 199 - 102kg
Gawn 208 - 109kg

I'd argue English struggles against players who are his equivalent in mobility Ryder, Marshall, Grundy, etc.

I'd argue English struggles with players who actually know how to ruck.

[Danjul]

Ruckmen clearly used to be a lot more nuggety.

Well spotted, I’ll try to do better next time.

[Hotdog60]

Sweet 203cm and 106kg

[The Adelaide Connection]

Scott Wynd was 102 cm and 108kg.
Minson: 199 And 106 kg.

English is 106 cm and 100 kg.
Simply the wrong proportions to succeed against wrestlers.

English can’t compete against greater power density, the laws of physics are against him. His opponents can use leverage against him.

Excellent design for a second ruck though. They don’t usually have to compete against monsters. And he is so talented in all other aspects.

If fit Martin might be a good interim move. Need to find a shorter/heavier ruckman for the long term. I suspect the whole team will seem better with this one modification.

On these numbers, Wyndy and English could get a gig delivering the one ring to Mordor.

[Vred]

Sweet 203cm and 106kg

Honestly Im of the opinion that we really need to get some AFL time into Sweet, I've watched him in VFL, he has the physicality and mungral that is needed in a ruck, and his a very good tap ruck at that, yes, he struggles around the ground, but honestly I hope he gets to see some AFL time because I do think he could have the makings of our number 1 Ruck when paired with English.

[1eyedog]

On these numbers, Wyndy and English could get a gig delivering the one ring to Mordor.

Might have to lose a few kegs first.

[bornadog]

Looking at Hannan swapped for a future third-round pick. That is fair.

and

Essendon’s Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti has not been discussed by the Western Bulldogs and won’t be moving this off-season, according to his manager Scott Lucas.

While McDonald-Tipungwuti’s name has been raised as a potential circuit-breaker in the Josh Dunkley talks, primarily by fans, the exciting forward will be staying at Tullamarine.


“I think the speculation has been driven purely by the media and callers, which is what we get this time of year,” Lucas said on Trade Radio.


“I haven’t had a conversation with the Bulldogs or with Essendon about Tippa. He’s contracted for another two years.


“It’s Tuesday, the trades finish on Thursday, so he’ll be an Essendon player next year.”

[Bulldog4life]

A bit of trivia.

The Western Bulldogs had 284 coaches votes from players in the age of 22-27 - the most of any team in 2020.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Future third for Hannan is overs IMO.

Barely played in 2020 and hasn't been 'in form' for some time. I'd have thought a 4th is adequate.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

So how is Hannan worth a future 3rd but Peter Wright only a future 4th rounder?

[bulldogsthru&thru]

So how is Hannan worth a future 3rd but Peter Wright only a future 4th rounder?

I was surprised with Wright being a 4th but apparently he is on quite a nice salary so Essendon taking that on meant the suns were happy to take less pickwise.

I agree Hannan should be a 4th rounder though.