Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

[Twodogs]

Finals again. Week one v St Kilda so tell us what you have learned with the extra speed, pressure and focus that comes with finals footy!

[GVGjr]

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[Mantis]

1/ We need to fix our ruck situation

2/ We need to fix our forward pressure

3/ We need to fix our defensive systems... they just walked goals in.

[mjp]

1/ We need to fix our ruck situation

2/ We need to fix our forward pressure

3/ We need to fix our defensive systems... they just walked goals in.

Forward pressure was alright...and defending was ok - kept them to 10 goals. But when you are plus 16 for inside 50’s and lose...well, my goodness.

[Mantis]

Forward pressure was alright...and defending was ok - kept them to 10 goals. But when you are plus 16 for inside 50’s and lose...well, my goodness.

How easily did they score their goals?

Understand the differential in inside 50’s was huge, but when he hack kick it in, and fill the forwardline with anyone except forwards then I’m not sure what we expect... especially against a tall defence.

[Sedat]

Forward pressure was alright...and defending was ok - kept them to 10 goals. But when you are plus 16 for inside 50’s and lose...well, my goodness.

We had a lot of dirty entries. Their entries, especially in the middle 2 qtrs were quick, clean and deep.

We were gutsy to keep running the game out but some of our set up and play in the first 3 qtrs was abject.

1. We need to give more respect to the ruck and stoppage set up
2. Trading is just as important as drafting. St Kilda loses this game comfortably without their off season recruits.
3. We only beat West Coast without Nic Nat of the teams in the top 8. We ended up exactly where we deserved this season.

[FrediKanoute]

Forward pressure was alright...and defending was ok - kept them to 10 goals. But when you are plus 16 for inside 50’s and lose...well, my goodness.

Bang on. Lachie hitting the post. Bailey Smith missing a sitter. Wally missing from a free. End of the day we had chances to win this and didn't take them. Wasn't the ruck; Wasn't Cordy getting injured; it was not making the most of forward entries.

[Eastdog]

Bang on. Lachie hitting the post. Bailey Smith missing a sitter. Wally missing from a free. End of the day we had chances to win this and didn't take them. Wasn't the ruck; Wasn't Cordy getting injured; it was not making the most of forward entries.

Agree although the ruck is an issue for us. Considering the margin of 3 points yes not taking those big chances cost us this game.

[Dry Rot]

1/ We need to fix our ruck situation

2/ We need to fix our forward pressure

3/ We need to fix our defensive systems... they just walked goals in.

This plus we have no forward system.

Our forward line is full of HBFs and failed mids. Bruce god help us was our only specialist forward IIRC.

And critical tackles don't stick.

[Stefcep]

This plus we have no forward system.

Our forward line is full of HBFs and failed mids. Bruce god help us was our only specialist forward IIRC.

And critical tackles don't stick.

I actually think we do have a forward system. I don't like it, but its there..........But its not really a system, its chaotic, unpredictable, hapharzard. This is no accident because its been the same for all of Beveridge's tenure even in 2016.

The thing he will rightly point out is that the purpose of a forward system is create goal scoring opportunities more than your opponent gets, to win the game.

Well we actually did that. We created the opportunities and we kept them to 10 goals That should be enough to win. And 3 points margin says the system isn't to blame...

Personally, I want to see the whole game plan overhauled, but can the players play another way?

[Danjul]

I actually think we do have a forward system. I don't like it, but its there..........But its not really a system, its chaotic, unpredictable, hapharzard. This is no accident because its been the same for all of Beveridge's tenure even in 2016.

The thing he will rightly point out is that the purpose of a forward system is create goal scoring opportunities more than your opponent gets, to win the game.

Well we actually did that. We created the opportunities and we kept them to 10 goals That should be enough to win. And 3 points margin says the system isn't to blame...

Personally, I want to see the whole game plan overhauled, but can the players play another way?

Yesterday our best forwards were the umpires. I think they had 3 of our first 4 goals.

They seem to be the only scoring opportunities the deliberate chaos game plan generates.

[mjp]

Yesterday our best forwards were the umpires. I think they had 3 of our first 4 goals.

Well...the stats will say that but the first goal (Bruce) was in the run of play after a free kick had been paid. I think he should have stopped/given the ball back to ( I think) Wallis but our players have done this all year. Play-on-advantage inside scoring distance but OUTSIDE the goal square is just selfish, me first footy.

We aren’t a super disciplined side.

[comrade]

Same way we’ve lost all year so just copy and paste my answers from Rd 2, the Blues loss, the Lions loss etc.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

1. Naughton should probably go back given JUH is coming. Our back half is diabolical and needs a stable key defender. Naughton and Keath looks solid. Naughtys two finals forward have been really poor, I get the attraction of playing him forward, but I think for the betterment of the side he goes back.

2. Lipinski isn't a good fit for us. Slow, meek in the contest. Said it earlier in the year but he's expendable.

3. Could we target somebody like Mason Cox?

[The Bulldogs Bite]

3. Could we target somebody like Mason Cox?

This call looks great right about now