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    Re: Round 1 Team - 2021

    B: Crozier, Young, Daniel
    HB: Williams, Keath, JJ
    C: Smith, Dunkley, Hunter
    HF: Bont, Naughton, Libba
    F: Wallis, English, Hannan
    R: Martin, Macrae, Treloar
    I/C: JUH, Vandermeer, Richards, Jong


    Hard side to pick as it always is. We’ve got to create opportunity for our wealth of midfielders which means some spend time forward, back and wing.

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    Re: Round 1 Team - 2021

    B: Williams Young Crozier
    HB: Daniel Keath JJ
    C: Hunter Dunkley Treloar
    HF: Hannan Naughton Bont
    F: Wallis Bruce Vandermeer
    R: Martin Macrae Smith
    INT: JUH English Wood Libba

    Emerg: West, Gardner, Weightman, Richards, Cordy, Jong

    Note: I've bolded the positions and players that I think are the biggest question marks. If the list is fit and the above mid/forward set up functions, it's going to be a dog fight for players like Schache, Lloyd, Jong, Dale & Lipinski to get game time. Throw Richards and West in as other promising types that may spend a lot of time at Footscray.
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    Re: Round 1 Team - 2021

    B: Wood Naughton Crozier
    HB: Daniel Keath Williams
    C: Hunter Macrae Treloar
    HF: Libba English Bont
    F: Wallis Bruce Hannan
    R: Martin Dunks Baz
    I/C: JUH VDM JJ Duryea

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    Re: Round 1 Team - 2021

    My Team

    B: Wood, Young, Crozier

    HB: Hunter, Keath, Daniel

    C: Smith, Liberatore, Treloar

    HF: Hannan, Bontempelli, JJ

    F: English, Naughton, Wallis

    R: Martin, Dunkley, Macrae

    Int: Williams, Schache, Vandermeer, Jong

    EMG: Weightman, Cordy, Richards


    A few explanations

    * JJ forward to give us something different and a bit of ground level spark.

    * Hunter from half back in a Matty Boyd style role with license to run thru midfield

    * Bruce misses out until there is evidence he is fit, focussed and in form. Does he want to be a lad or a premiership player? I also think he works on being a key defender.

    * Lewis Young gets first crack ahead of Cordy & Gardiner

    * Jamarra, not yet, missing this year means he needs to spend time in the VFL developing.

    * Schache ahead of Bruce. I get the criticisms but I think he is a smart forward & works better with Naughton

    * I want Dunks in the starting midfield. He is a beast & an excellent defensive midfielder.

    * Jong is in. I'd like to see him as our pressure forward who can also take a mark. I think he has good forward instincts.

    The team is versatile enough to switch around if some of these things don't work
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    Re: Round 1 Team - 2021

    Wonder why are team is hard to pick when frankly we are middle of the road?
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    Re: Round 1 Team - 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    My Team

    B: Wood, Young, Crozier

    HB: Hunter, Keath, Daniel

    C: Smith, Liberatore, Treloar

    HF: Hannan, Bontempelli, JJ

    F: English, Naughton, Wallis

    R: Martin, Dunkley, Macrae

    Int: Williams, Schache, Vandermeer, Jong

    EMG: Weightman, Cordy, Richards
    Duryea?
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    Re: Round 1 Team - 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    Wonder why are team is hard to pick when frankly we are middle of the road?
    I’m a stupid idiot but I fully expect a big improvement next year. Our best player is 26, our full forward is 21, we have 7 of the best 20 mids in it, and our back 6 improved dramatically over the last month of 2020. Drop Bruce and we are on I reckon.
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    Re: Round 1 Team - 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Days View Post
    I’m a stupid idiot but I fully expect a big improvement next year. Our best player is 26, our full forward is 21, we have 7 of the best 20 mids in it, and our back 6 improved dramatically over the last month of 2020. Drop Bruce and we are on I reckon.
    And imagine if Bruce can turn it around on top of all that!?
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    Re: Round 1 Team - 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    Wonder why are team is hard to pick when frankly we are middle of the road?
    I think that's part of the reason. We have a real glut of players in the 15-30 range who are not discernibly better or worse than one another, and we also have a lot of players with similar skillsets who like to play in the same position - so it's fitting square pegs into round holes to fill out the side.

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    Re: Round 1 Team - 2021

    B: Wood, Keath, Daniel
    HB: Crozier, Naughton, Williams
    C: Hunter, Dunkley, Treloar
    HF: Bont, Bruce, Hannan
    FF: JUH, English, Wallis

    R: Martin, Macrae, Smith

    I/C: Libba, JJ, Vandermeer, Duryea,

    E: Lipinski, West, Jong, Cordy, Schache, Weightman.

    ^
    Would win it all next year with that line-up

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    Re: Round 1 Team - 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by soupaman View Post
    Wood, Gardner/Young, Crozier
    Daniel, Keath, Williams
    Hunter, Dunkley, JJ
    Hannan, Bont, Vandermeer
    English, Naughton, Wallis
    Martin, Treloar, Macrae

    Liberatore, B. Smith, JUH, Richards
    Dang, I reckon this is about bang on looking at our team on paper

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    Re: Round 1 Team - 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by CarnTheScray View Post
    B: Wood, Keath, Daniel
    HB: Crozier, Naughton, Williams
    C: Hunter, Dunkley, Treloar
    HF: Bont, Bruce, Hannan
    FF: JUH, English, Wallis

    R: Martin, Macrae, Smith

    I/C: Libba, JJ, Vandermeer, Duryea,

    E: Lipinski, West, Jong, Cordy, Schache, Weightman.

    ^
    Would win it all next year with that line-up
    I quite like where this team make-up is heading with Naughton back.

    Probably is still a bit too tall and heavy in the forward half. Switching Vandermeer though for Bruce/Schache balances it up, which you have on your I/C, with Marcus at CHF.

    Whether JUH is ready to slot straight in only time will tell. Hopefully his talent alone, not unlike what the Bont showed in his early days, might be enough for the MC. Will be interesting to see where he’s at over the pre-season.

    Hannan is still aspirational at this time of year. Hopefully he can command the spot. We’ve got a few options fighting for half forward in Lipinski, Jong, and even Dale if he can rise above drop offs and inconsistencies.

    Richards is the other missing piece who I’d like to see press his case after an average 2020, possibly taking the Duryea spot on the IC, or for Wood’s. I prefer to see him behind the ball.
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    Re: Round 1 Team - 2021

    Looking at speed in the forwardline:

    JUH: 2.89 seconds, 20m sprint at combine (and he loves to tackle hard) (right now he's a quick small forward pocket, just 15cm taller)
    Vandermeer: 3.02 seconds, 20m sprint at combine
    B. Smith: Can't find a number, but he'd be around 3.00 seconds also (loves to tackle hard)
    Weightman: 3.01 seconds, 20m sprint at combine

    If these guys were in the forwardline together at a given time, it loses a one paced risk or being too top heavy and slow risk. Say with Naughton/Bruce/Schache, English, Wallis/Weightman/Hannan, Bonts and resting mids etc, it feels a little more dynamic.

    Being fed the footy by Bonts, Treloar, Macrae, Dunkley, Libba, Hunter etc.

    Hopefully Bevo and our forwardline coach can put a plan in place to take full advantage.
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    Re: Round 1 Team - 2021

    Everyone get on. We are 14/1 for the 2021 premiership. I have a good feeling. I just had a nibble.

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    Re: Round 1 Team - 2021

    Just looking at the teams, do we have any evidence that Treloar can be effective playing outside?

    I'm not sure he is a winger...According to a lot of people we are about to find out....
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