Round 1 2021 Team

[Happy Days]

Just looking at the teams, do we have any evidence that Treloar can be effective playing outside?

I'm not sure he is a winger...According to a lot of people we are about to find out....

Is there a reason he couldn't be? He has all the tools and he's not been played there only due to playing a "better" position with the Pies.

He actually reminds me a lot of Merrett in that his skill set would seem to be suited to an outside role, but he's played closer to the coalface because he can and it's hard as hell to find that type of player usually.

[dog town]

Is there a reason he couldn't be? He has all the tools and he's not been played there only due to playing a "better" position with the Pies.

He actually reminds me a lot of Merrett in that his skill set would seem to be suited to an outside role, but he's played closer to the coalface because he can and it's hard as hell to find that type of player usually.

I watched a few of his games this week and his running patterns are more suited to a genuine midfield or even half back role. While he is an explosive player I wouldn’t say he is a great spreader like say a Hunter. More effective in short bursts around the ball.

[azabob]

I watched a few of his games this week and his running patterns are more suited to a genuine midfield or even half back role. While he is an explosive player I wouldn’t say he is a great spreader like say a Hunter. More effective in short bursts around the ball.

DT, with our midfield group how would you set up?

[Ghost Dog]

Josh Dunkley, Ruck of course.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

I watched a few of his games this week and his running patterns are more suited to a genuine midfield or even half back role. While he is an explosive player I wouldn’t say he is a great spreader like say a Hunter. More effective in short bursts around the ball.

Agree with this.

His greatest strength is getting on the move from stoppages and bursting away from congestion.

Playing on a wing would take away his main strength.

[Mofra]

Agree with this.

His greatest strength is getting on the move from stoppages and bursting away from congestion.

Playing on a wing would take away his main strength.

I expect we set up differently at stoppages this year - one of Bailey Smith or AT will be at every stoppage to force opposition teams to sit off a midfielder to stop our "burst" player from getting the ball forward of the congestion. That leaves a rotation of a pure inside type (Dunkley/Libba) and a genuine inside/outside player who can win it or receive the handball (Bont/Macrae).

We will surely rest a midfield at high forward too so if there is congestion they push up to the stoppage to increase our ball-winning power.

[Ozza]

Treloar will be inside mid and high half forward. I don't see him spending much time on a wing.

[Ozza]

Looking at speed in the forwardline:

JUH: 2.89 seconds, 20m sprint at combine (and he loves to tackle hard) (right now he's a quick small forward pocket, just 15cm taller)
Vandermeer: 3.02 seconds, 20m sprint at combine
B. Smith: Can't find a number, but he'd be around 3.00 seconds also (loves to tackle hard)
Weightman: 3.01 seconds, 20m sprint at combine

If these guys were in the forwardline together at a given time, it loses a one paced risk or being too top heavy and slow risk. Say with Naughton/Bruce/Schache, English, Wallis/Weightman/Hannan, Bonts and resting mids etc, it feels a little more dynamic.

Being fed the footy by Bonts, Treloar, Macrae, Dunkley, Libba, Hunter etc.

Hopefully Bevo and our forwardline coach can put a plan in place to take full advantage.

And did a yo-yo test midfielders would be rapt with.

[bulldogtragic]

And did a yo-yo test midfielders would be rapt with.

JUH, you show off!

[bornadog]

Treloar will be inside mid and high half forward. I don't see him spending much time on a wing.

Why do you say he will be an inside mid? He has the burst to be an outside mid.

[The Adelaide Connection]

I hope we get Collingwood first up. You would expect a fair old slide from the Pies and reversing the deflation of 2020's round 1 will be just the tonic to get us up and about, circa 2015.

I think Martin and English play if it's the Pies. The trauma of rucking alone against Grundy likely hasn't gone away and getting Tim off to a positive start in 2021 is paramount.

[mjp]

...we have 7 of the best 20 mids in it...

There are 18 teams.

Are you saying of the top 20 mids in the comp we have 35%?

Aside from any ‘champion team beats a team of champions’ type cliches, this is a thread of its own and I would love to read about your top 20 and see where you have ours ranked.

Of the top 20 in the comp, I think we *might* have 3...I’m not sure about 7.

[jeemak]

Our midfield is excellent and full of players who perform well individually and as a team - when the game is on their terms. But as soon as the game gets levelled or goes against them they can still be individually good players but sometimes can't gel properly and take the team with them in stopping the rot and turning the game around again. Mind you, that's actually a difficult thing to do however, if our midfield wants to be ranked in the top couple within the league then that's exactly what it needs to do.

Mofra has put up a good summation of how our midfielders will blend, to add to that I reckon a lot of the mucking around to fit everyone in will revolve around balancing one wing being added more heavily to the centre and forward rotations. I look at VDM and think I'd love him to play centre, forward and back equally because of his dash, though unfortunately due to cattle he'll have to rotate through the remaining forward five. The good thing is he could become an excellent finisher for us, a genuine running goal kicker......and eventually one of the most valuable players in the team.

[Happy Days]

There are 18 teams.

Are you saying of the top 20 mids in the comp we have 35%?

Aside from any ‘champion team beats a team of champions’ type cliches, this is a thread of its own and I would love to read about your top 20 and see where you have ours ranked.

Of the top 20 in the comp, I think we *might* have 3...I’m not sure about 7.

Okay this might have been hyper bowl but since you asked and I do not want to do any work:

Tier A:
Martin (if he counts)
Bont
Fyfe
Neale
Danger

Tier B
Cripps
Macrae
Steele
Boak
Oliver

Tier C
J. Kelly
Adams
Treloar
Parker
Duncan

Tier D
Mitchell
Lyons
Zorko
Merrett
T. Kelly

So maybe three is right, but our guys are still really good, plus it's not unreasonable to hope Smith to feature somewhere in there as soon as this year, and Dunkley's 2019 form was around Tier C (I think it was analogous if not quite as good as Steele's 2020).

Wingmen are their own thing, so I have Hunter behind Gaff (maybe) and just ahead of Menegola and McLuggage.

Basically it's not technically correct but it's not the most unreasonable thing I've ever said on here either.

[SquirrelGrip]

Can we merge this with https://www.woof.net.au/forum/showth...ht=round+2021? Not sure why the second one was started.