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    Re: Round 1 2021 Team

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Science View Post
    Okay FINE.

    Backs: WILLIAMS - NAUGHTON - CROZIER
    Half Backs: JOHANNISEN - KEATH - DANIEL
    Centre: HUNTER - MACRAE - B.SMITH
    Half Forwards: RICHARDS - BRUCE - VANDERMEER
    Forwards: UGLE-HAGAN - WALLIS - SCHACHE
    Onballers: ENGLISH - BONTEMPELLI - LIBERATORE
    Interchange: DUNKLEY - DURYEA - JONG - CORDY
    Emergencies: R.SMITH - GARDNER - WOOD

    Though if Bevo gets his way ...

    Backs: WILLIAMS - NAUGHTON - CROZIER
    Half Backs: JOHANNISEN - KEATH - DANIEL
    Centre: HUNTER - MACRAE - B.SMITH
    Half Forwards: RICHARDS - BONTEMPELLI - VANDERMEER
    Forwards: WALLIS - BRUCE - SCHACHE
    Onballers: ENGLISH - UGLE-HAGAN - LIBERATORE
    Interchange: DUNKLEY - DURYEA - JONG - CORDY
    Emergencies: R.SMITH - GARDNER - WOOD

    While Lewis Young remains in witness protection.
    Where is Goldstein? I've been promised a Goldstein. Perhaps he can play forward and Ugle-Hagan can ruck 80-20 with English?

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    Re: Round 1 2021 Team

    Quote Originally Posted by hujsh View Post
    Where is Goldstein? I've been promised a Goldstein. Perhaps he can play forward and Ugle-Hagan can ruck 80-20 with English?
    Goldstein to the ruck, English to half forward, JUH to make VFL games must watch until at least round 5.
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    Re: Round 1 2021 Team

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Science View Post

    Though if Bevo gets his way ...

    Backs: WILLIAMS - NAUGHTON - CROZIER
    Half Backs: JOHANNISEN - KEATH - DANIEL
    Centre: HUNTER - MACRAE - B.SMITH
    Half Forwards: RICHARDS - BONTEMPELLI - VANDERMEER
    Forwards: WALLIS - BRUCE - SCHACHE
    Onballers: ENGLISH - UGLE-HAGAN - LIBERATORE
    Interchange: DUNKLEY - DURYEA - JONG - CORDY
    Emergencies: R.SMITH - GARDNER - WOOD

    While Lewis Young remains in witness protection.
    If this is Bevo's preferred side, there is no way those emergencies are emergencies.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    Re: Round 1 2021 Team

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    With just a couple of assumptions

    Backs: Williams - Naughton - Gardner
    HBacks: Crozier - Keath - Daniel
    Centre: B.Smith - Macrae - Hunter
    HForw: Garcia - Bruce - Dunkley
    Forw: Wallis - Schache - Vandermeer
    Ruck: English - Bontempelli - Liberatore
    Int: Cordy - Wood - Johannisen - Duryea
    Emerg: Sweet (who else) R.Smith Richards Lipinski
    4 defenders on the bench.... no thanks!

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    Re: Round 1 2021 Team

    B: Williams, Gardner, Woood
    HB: Crozier, Keath, Daniel
    C: B.Smith, Macrae, Hunter
    HF: VDM, Naughton, JJ
    F: Wally, Bruce, Dunks
    R: English, Bont, Libba
    IC: JUH, Duryea, Lipsinki, Jong

    - Dunks only FP as part of mid rotation
    - Really need a ruck/ruck support

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    Re: Round 1 2021 Team

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    4 defenders on the bench.... no thanks!
    It's Beveridge, so there's two forwards and two wings.
    "It's over. It's all over."

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    Re: Round 1 2021 Team

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    4 defenders on the bench.... no thanks!
    In all seriousness have you tried putting together a best 22 with the list we have to get the right team balance?
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    Re: Round 1 2021 Team

    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    In all seriousness have you tried putting together a best 22 with the list we have to get the right team balance?
    Given our current list I'd be play guys that maybe are not best 22 on performance or how they're rated on the list, but more suited to the role they need to play.

    Agree that our list make-up is a mess and it needs to be addressed now as it will hold us back from making a step forward, but I'm not confident we will pull the right levers... and are off to a bad start.

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    Re: Round 1 2021 Team

    Quote Originally Posted by EasternWest View Post
    It's Beveridge, so there's two forwards and two wings.
    And a ruck
    "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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    Re: Round 1 2021 Team

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco Jones View Post
    B: Williams, Gardner, Woood
    HB: Crozier, Keath, Daniel
    C: B.Smith, Macrae, Hunter
    HF: VDM, Naughton, JJ
    F: Wally, Bruce, Dunks
    R: English, Bont, Libba
    IC: JUH, Duryea, Lipsinki, Jong

    - Dunks only FP as part of mid rotation
    - Really need a ruck/ruck support
    l’m not sure that Gardner is ready for the role of key ‘lock down’ defender at full back.

    Admittedly he has improved enormously and, like everyone else here, I can see him leading the backline in years to come.

    His elimination final was sensational, getting more possessions than Bruce, Naughton and Cordy (our other key position talls) combined shows he understands how to adapt to the game plan others are struggling with. By taking more marks than English he has sent a message to opposing coaches that he must be taken seriously.

    I can see why you are displaying faith in him and I hope he can reward it in 2021.

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    Re: Round 1 2021 Team

    Quote Originally Posted by Danjul View Post
    l’m not sure that Gardner is ready for the role of key ‘lock down’ defender at full back.

    Admittedly he has improved enormously and, like everyone else here, I can see him leading the backline in years to come.

    His elimination final was sensational, getting more possessions than Bruce, Naughton and Cordy (our other key position talls) combined shows he understands how to adapt to the game plan others are struggling with. By taking more marks than English he has sent a message to opposing coaches that he must be taken seriously.

    I can see why you are displaying faith in him and I hope he can reward it in 2021.
    "It's over. It's all over."

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    Re: Round 1 2021 Team

    Quote Originally Posted by Danjul View Post

    His elimination final was sensational, getting more possessions than Bruce, Naughton and Cordy (our other key position talls) combined shows he understands how to adapt to the game plan others are struggling with
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    So, the Dogs players combined got more possessions combined than st.kilda.

    Yet, St.Kilda won.

    Danjul can you explain how that happened?
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    Re: Round 1 2021 Team

    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    So, the Dogs players combined got more possessions combined than st.kilda.

    Yet, St.Kilda won.

    Danjul can you explain how that happened?
    Because

    1. We handed them ruck dominance. At the first centre bounce the ball got deep inside St Kilda’s 50 metre zone in 6 seconds. After that the Dogs managed only 8 hitouts. Using Dunkley in the ruck reduced him to 13 possessions (again) for zero hitouts.

    English had exactly the same figures as in round two against the Saints. Soundly beaten. Where our guys got the ball their disposals were defensive and under more pressure than their opponents . And who didn’t see it coming?



    2. The forward strategy of long bombs and crashing the packs failed dismally. 51(?) inside 50’s resulted in 1 mark for Bruce and 1 mark for Wallis. Naughton had 2 possessions to 3/4 time. Even helpful umpiring couldn’t get us over the line.

    On the other hand St Kilda had more kicks which led to more composure and efficiency inside 50.

    These 2 are probably enough to cover missing the 1 extra goal we needed. The Saints weren’t that good, just better where it counted most.

    Maybe one more. On the backline we allowed Daniel to be restricted too long. And we didn’t get enough height up against King early enough. That allowed him early aerial supremacy for some telling goals.

    That contributed to St Kilda being more than 4 goals ahead at 3/4 time when many viewers turned off.
    Last edited by Danjul; 18-10-2020 at 01:44 PM. Reason: only 8 hitouts

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    Round 1 Team - 2021

    As a very early try...

    B: Crozier Le Young Wood
    HB: Williams Keath JJ
    C: Hunter Bontempelli Daniel
    HF: Smith Naughton Hannan
    F: Wallis Bruce English
    R: Martin Treloar Macrae

    Int: Dunkley, Vandeermeer, Liberatore, Weightman

    Emerg: Schache, Gardner, Dale, Cordy, Richards, Lloyd, Butler, Garcia, JUH, MacPherson/Raak, others per delistings
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    Re: Round 1 Team - 2021

    I am liking English in the forward line to start the game.

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