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    Why the Western Bulldogs hold a massive trade ace

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    THE WESTERN Bulldogs loom as one of the key players of this year's Trade Period, and not for the reason you might expect.


    The Dogs are on the search for a small forward and another tall defender, but what makes them a crucial part in this year's marketplace is their first pick No.12.


    Every club knows the selection is up for grabs, because the Dogs will be looking to bolster their draft hand for points to match an early bid for Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, their Next Generation Academy gun who could be the No.1 choice this year.


    Clubs are smart at targeting rivals who have Academy and father-son players coming through and offering them a suite of later picks that are worth more under the Draft Value Index than a single early selection.


    By doing so, they can move up the order, whilst in the process offering the club with the player more points to pay for an early bid. Such will be the case for the Dogs this year, who can look to stock up on points with later selections to afford the exciting key forward prospect.


    It is why North Melbourne, which is looking to generate as many top-end picks this year as possible, could target the No.12 slot to add to their No.2 and 9 picks by packaging later picks together for the Dogs.


    The Crows, whose current hand of picks No.20 and 29 equates to more draft points than pick 12 (1565 to 1268), could also have a look at grouping their second-round picks to land another prized early slot.


    The Bulldogs will be looking at the selections as points rather than picks given they know a bid anywhere inside the first handful of picks will wipe out the majority of their draft hand.


    They could also look at moving next year's future first-rounder and then, if they did go into a points deficit, the deficit would only be taken off their second-round selection in 2021.


    This is much like the Giants' approach to the bid they matched for Tom Green last year, when the Giants offloaded their 2020 first-round pick to Adelaide but then fell in a points deficit for their first pick this year.


    It means that, even though the Giants are likely to get a first-round compensation pick for Zac Williams departing to Carlton as a free agent, the points deficit from last year's draft will only push their second-round pick back.


    With a flexibility to get involved in more deals for points, the Bulldogs are operating in a sellers market. There'll be no shortage of buyers.
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    Re: Why the Western Bulldogs hold a massive trade ace

    What's going to need to be a priority for us is making sure whatever pick we get back in the Goldstein trade helps us avoid the deficit too much for next year.

    Interesting that the Crows pick we'd potentially move on is our pick (I think). We could do a little Veale Deal type head check in it and try to get some assurance they won't bid at pick one. I don't think they will but it would help a whole lot if they don't.
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    Re: Why the Western Bulldogs hold a massive trade ace

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post

    They could also look at moving next year's future first-rounder and then, if they did go into a points deficit, the deficit would only be taken off their second-round selection in 2021.


    This is much like the Giants' approach to the bid they matched for Tom Green last year, when the Giants offloaded their 2020 first-round pick to Adelaide but then fell in a points deficit for their first pick this year.


    It means that, even though the Giants are likely to get a first-round compensation pick for Zac Williams departing to Carlton as a free agent, the points deficit from last year's draft will only push their second-round pick back.
    This seems very stupid. The only argument I can see is that they want clubs to know the draft order/what they're trading for prior to trade week, but there are so many moving parts on draft night that it doesn't really make sense.

    Surely you apply the deficit immediately before the draft to whatever their first pick is?

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    Re: Why the Western Bulldogs hold a massive trade ace

    Quote Originally Posted by jazzadogs View Post
    This seems very stupid. The only argument I can see is that they want clubs to know the draft order/what they're trading for prior to trade week, but there are so many moving parts on draft night that it doesn't really make sense.

    Surely you apply the deficit immediately before the draft to whatever their first pick is?
    Yeah, that makes little sense in the GWS scenario. It makes sense in our scenario if we did move the 1st round pick and only had a 2nd rounder next year as our first selection in our draft, but the GWS scenario is just dumb.
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    Re: Why the Western Bulldogs hold a massive trade ace

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    Yeah, that makes little sense in the GWS scenario. It makes sense in our scenario if we did move the 1st round pick and only had a 2nd rounder next year as our first selection in our draft, but the GWS scenario is just dumb.
    If we were to trade in a first rounder next year, then the deficit should be applied to that. Given GWS are getting away with it this year though, they better not change it for us haha.

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    Re: Why the Western Bulldogs hold a massive trade ace

    Quote Originally Posted by jazzadogs View Post
    If we were to trade in a first rounder next year, then the deficit should be applied to that. Given GWS are getting away with it this year though, they better not change it for us haha.
    I can only guess the journo has it wrong otherwise that is a loophole ripe for exploiting. Unless FA compo picks are excluded, which is BS if so.
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