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    Re: Brownlow Medal 2020

    https://www.afl.com.au/news/519591/y...ve-total-votes

    Your club's Brownlow night: Leader, top five, total votes
    We break down how your club fared during the 2020 Brownlow Medal count
    By Riley Beveridge, Sarah Black and Nathan Schmook



    Western Bulldogs

    The battle for top billing at The Kennel was over early as Jack Macrae raced to the lead with 10 votes after nine rounds to sit equal fourth overall. The prolific midfielder finished on 15, ahead of captain Marcus Bontempelli on 10. Club champion Caleb Daniel was well down the board with three votes, with eye-catching youngster Bailey Smith picking up his first career votes and finishing on seven.

    Top five

    15 - Jack Macrae
    10 - Marcus Bontempelli
    7 - Bailey Smith
    6 - Lachie Hunter
    4 - Josh Dunkley, Tim English

    Total votes - 61 (=6th overall)




    Adelaide Crows

    It was never going to be a big night for Adelaide. Rory Laird, Reilly O'Brien and Matt Crouch were the only players to poll in multiple games, as the Crows finished with the fewest votes of any team in the competition. Interestingly, impressive youngster Lachie Scholl polled three votes against Carlton in round 17 – the week he wasn't nominated for the NAB AFL Rising Star.

    Top five

    4 - Rory Laird
    4 - Reilly O'Brien

    3 - Matt Crouch
    3 - Lachlan Sholl
    3 - Rory Sloane

    Total votes - 20 (18th overall)


    Brisbane Lions

    Everything worked out perfectly for Lachie Neale. He polled votes in 11 of 17 games, with 10 of those ultimately proving to be best-on-ground performances. It equated to a remarkable and record-breaking Brownlow Medal victory for the brilliant midfielder. Fortunately, as had been feared, Jarryd Lyons didn't steal too many votes from him. Neale and Lyons polled in the same game only three times throughout the year, with Jarrod Berry also failing to steal votes. Neale polled nearly half of Brisbane's 66 votes, which was the second-most of any team.

    Top five

    31 - Lachie Neale - 2020 Brownlow Medal Winner
    9 - Jarryd Lyons
    8 - Jarrod Berry
    4 - Harris Andrews
    4 - Hugh McCluggage

    Total votes - 66 (=2nd overall)


    Carlton

    It might not have been his best season, but Patrick Cripps still did enough to top Carlton's tally. Cripps polled in four games, including two best-on-ground performances, to narrowly see off the club's up-and-coming midfielder Sam Walsh. The Blues remarkably had 15 separate players poll throughout the night, spreading the love relatively evenly across the board. But it was Cripps who was again the standout, receiving the maximum three votes in thrilling wins over Geelong and Fremantle.

    Top five

    10 - Patrick Cripps
    8 - Sam Walsh
    5 - Ed Curnow
    4 - Michael Gibbons
    4 - Jack Martin

    Total votes - 48 (12th overall)


    Collingwood

    It's hard to topple Scott Pendlebury. The incredible consistency of the Collingwood captain was again reflected on Brownlow Medal night, where Pendlebury narrowly saw off Taylor Adams to lead the count for the Magpies. Steele Sidebottom made a red-hot start and polled in the opening three games, while it took Adams until round 10 to find his first vote. It meant that Pendlebury, who gathered votes at a nice pace throughout the evening, could once again steal the show for Collingwood.

    Top five

    13 - Scott Pendlebury
    11 - Taylor Adams
    6 - Brodie Grundy
    6 - Darcy Moore
    6 - Steele Sidebottom

    Total votes - 66 (=2nd overall)



    Essendon

    Votes were hard to come by at Essendon. The ineligible Zach Merrett found the most with 14, finishing just outside the overall top-10, but he didn't have much for competition. Dylan Shiel had two best-on-ground performances within the first five games, but didn't poll again, while Andrew McGrath also struggled to attract the attention of the umpires throughout the night. It meant that Merrett finished well clear from within his own ranks, although the Bombers still had the fourth-fewest votes of any team.

    Top five

    13 - Zach Merrett
    7 - Andrew McGrath
    6 - Dylan Shiel
    4 - David Zaharakis
    2 - Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti, Adam Saad, Jake Stringer

    Total votes - 37 (15th overall)


    Fremantle

    Last year's Brownlow Medal winner Nat Fyfe finished 23 votes off his 2019 count, but still managed to top Fremantle's leaderboard on Sunday night. Fyfe polled in six games, but failed to earn a single best-on-ground performance, narrowly managing to overcome his younger teammate Andrew Brayshaw. It was a relatively even night for the Dockers, who had 11 players score a vote, with this year's NAB AFL Rising Star winner Caleb Serong even managing to secure his first career Brownlow Medal vote. Expect it to be the first of many.

    Top five

    10 - Nat Fyfe
    9 - Andrew Brayshaw
    8 - Michael Walters
    6 - Luke Ryan
    3 - Adam Cerra, Rory Lobb, David Mundy, Matt Taberner

    Total votes - 50 (11th overall)



    Geelong Cats

    It was no real surprise to see 2016 Brownlow medallist Patrick Dangerfield topping the Cats' count, but at the start of the year not many would have tipped Cameron Guthrie to give him a run for his money. Guthrie was named All Australian for the first time this year and his stellar season was reflected in the votes. In a win for forwards around the country, Coleman medallist Tom Hawkins picked up 11 votes, including two best-on-grounds. Retiring champion Gary Ablett polled one vote in his final season.

    Top five

    15 - Patrick Dangerfield
    14 - Cam Guthrie
    11 - Tom Hawkins
    5 - Mitch Duncan
    5 - Sam Menegola

    Total votes - 64 (5th overall)



    Gold Coast Suns

    "Three votes – M. Rowell" is a phrase we're sure to hear for years to come, and star youngster Matt Rowell produced three consecutive best on ground performances before his season-ending shoulder injury. Recruit Hugh Greenwood starred in his first season at the club, while Jack Lukosius rounded out a surprisingly low count for the Suns with a best-on performance against Richmond.

    Top five

    11 - Hugh Greenwood
    9 - Matt Rowell
    3 - Jack Lukosius
    3 - Touk Miller
    2 - Ben Ainsworth, Sam Day, David Swallow, Jarrod Witts

    Total votes - 38 (14th overall)



    GWS Giants

    Toby Greene doesn't do things by halves, and the game-changing Giant polled all 12 of his votes in best-on-ground performances, spread consistently throughout the season. Classy teammate Josh Kelly also featured in the votes on four occasions to finish with eight. Draftee Jake Riccardi starred with a 12-disposal, four-goal NAB AFL Rising Star performance in round 14, but failed to poll a vote.

    Top five

    12 - Toby Greene
    8 - Josh Kelly
    4 - Stephen Coniglio
    4 - Nick Haynes
    4 - Jacob Hopper, Harry Perryman, Lachie Whitfield

    Total votes - 51 (10th overall)



    Hawthorn

    Reflective of its season and slide down the ladder, it was a fairly quiet vote count for Hawthorn. Perennial vote-getter and 2018 Brownlow medallist Tom Mitchell saw off all Hawks to poll 10 in his return season from a badly broken leg. Just nine Hawthorn players featured in the votes throughout the season. Dylan Moore only broke back into the side for the first time this year in round 16, and was given one vote in round 18.

    Top five

    10 - Tom Mitchell
    6 - Chad Wingard
    5 - Jack Gunston
    3 - Jaeger O'Meara
    3 - Isaac Smith

    Total votes - 33 (16th overall)


    Melbourne

    On a club-by-club basis, Melbourne's count was quite intriguing, with periods of dominance from different players. Max Gawn made all the early running, Clayton Oliver bobbed up in the middle of the season, but the 'Trac train' came through at full pelt. Christian Petracca had only polled five votes before this year and finished with 20 – including four best-on performances between rounds 11 and 18 – to finish third overall. Mitch Brown would have been happy with his two votes against former side Essendon.

    Top five

    20 - Christian Petracca
    14 - Clayton Oliver
    13 - Max Gawn
    6 - Jack Viney
    4 - Steven May

    Total votes - 61 (=6th overall)



    North Melbourne

    Rising star Jy Simpkin was off to a hot start, polling seven votes in the first four rounds to be equal fourth overall at that stage of the count. Like the Roos, he struggled as the season progressed, polling just one more to finish with eight overall. Evergreen ruck Todd Goldstein was awarded votes in three matches, including a best-on performance against Greater Western Sydney. In a quirk, Jared Polec was given one vote against Carlton, but was dropped for the following round's clash with Adelaide.

    Top five

    8 - Jy Simpkin
    5 - Todd Goldstein
    3 - Jed Anderson
    3 - Ben Cunnington
    2 - Luke Davies-Uniacke, Shaun Higgins, Luke McDonald

    Total votes - 27 (17th overall)


    Port Adelaide

    Seen as the main challenger to eventual winner Lachie Neale, midfielder Travis Boak raced to an early lead with eight of a possible nine votes in the first three rounds. He couldn't stay with Neale, but finished second with 21 votes, polling in eight games. Midfielders Tom Rockliff and Ollie Wines polled 10 votes each, with All-Australian Charlie Dixon on nine, and 17 Power players in the votes – more than any other club.

    Top five

    21 - Travis Boak
    10 - Tom Rockliff
    10 - Ollie Wines
    9 - Charlie Dixon
    5 - Robbie Gray

    Total votes - 75 (1st overall)


    Richmond

    It was a slow start for Dustin Martin, but the 2017 medallist polled eight votes between rounds eight and 10 and finished on a team-high 15. Shai Bolton's move into the midfield drew nine votes in an outstanding season, while Kane Lambert's back-to-back three-vote games in rounds five and six saw him come in third for the Tigers. Fifteen Tigers polled in an even season, including Jake Aarts, Liam Baker, Noah Balta and Derek Eggmolesse Smith, who got their first career votes.

    Top five

    15 - Dustin Martin
    9 - Shai Bolton
    6 - Kane Lambert
    5 - Trent Cotchin
    3 - Liam Baker, Jack Graham, Dion Prestia, Jayden Short

    Total votes - 56 (9th overall)



    St Kilda

    All-Australian midfielder Jack Steele was rewarded for an outstanding season with 20 votes, finishing equal third. He enjoyed a purple patch between rounds five and 10, with four best-on-ground games in that period. Dan Butler made a statement in his first game against former club Richmond, polling three votes, finishing with eight alongside ruckman Rowan Marshall. Luke Dunstan polled one vote in round one but was not seen again after being dropped and later suffering a pectoral injury.

    Top five

    20 - Jack Steele
    8 - Dan Butler
    8 - Rowan Marshall
    7 - Zac Jones
    5 - Jade Gresham

    Total votes - 60 (8th overall)



    Sydney Swans

    Co-captain Luke Parker was one of only three players to poll in both rounds one and two, either side of the shutdown. He kicked on to finish with 15 votes, polling well and finishing clear of teammate Tom Papley in second on six votes. Injured for much of the season, Isaac Heeney finished with five votes from the first three rounds, while co-captain Josh Kennedy polled three votes in the final two rounds.

    Top five

    15 - Luke Parker
    6 - Tom Papley
    5 - Isaac Heeney
    4 - Josh Kennedy
    3 - Jake Lloyd

    Total votes - 39 (13th overall)




    West Coast Eagles

    All-Australian ruckman Nic Naitanui did not poll as well as expected. The superstar big man finished with five votes in an outstanding campaign, well down the club leaderboard in equal seventh. Star recruit Tim Kelly finished equal top with 11 votes alongside Dom Sheed, with fellow midfielders Andrew Gaff and Elliot Yeo trailing on eight each. All-Australian Liam Ryan could surprisingly only manage one vote. Josh Kennedy celebrated his 250th match with four goals against Fremantle and three votes.

    Top five

    11 - Tim Kelly
    11 - Dom Sheed
    8 - Andrew Gaff
    8 - Elliot Yeo
    6 - Josh Kennedy, Luke Shuey

    Total votes - 66 (=2nd overall)
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    Re: Brownlow Medal 2020

    So according to the umpires Neale's season was more than 10x that of Caleb's. No wonder we struggled if our best player for the year was so far behind !
    What a joke the brownlow is. Time to scrap it, or at least expand their horizons a bit to reward someone who is not under their nose at every bounce.

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    According to these votes Neale had the best season of all time, fresh off Fyfe having the best season of all time, just after Dusty had the best season of all time. They might as well skip the middle man from now on and have the media do the votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Throughandthrough View Post
    don't watch much footy mate?
    Plenty. If I had to choose a team from scratch, Neale wouldn't be in the first 5 picked.
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    Bit of salt in this thread. Neale's a gun, deserving winner and a hell of a good bloke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasternWest View Post
    Bit of salt in this thread. Neale's a gun, deserving winner and a hell of a good bloke.
    No salt, I said he's a great player.

    Best player in the league? No way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    No salt, I said he's a great player.

    Best player in the league? No way.
    He has won it off being the most consistent all season. All the guns were up and down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasternWest View Post
    Bit of salt in this thread. Neale's a gun, deserving winner and a hell of a good bloke.
    I've got no issue with Neale winning it. It's the voting. I'd argue Hawkins was as important, and he gets a third of the votes. The best forward, worth a third of the best mid. Something's wrong there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    He has won it off being the most consistent all season. All the guns were up and down.
    Yep, had a great season. Consistency was probably aided by the fact he didn't have to leave the state of QLD beyond a week or two for the entire season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    He has won it off being the most consistent all season. All the guns were up and down.
    Sort of but you don't win a Brownlow for being consistent. He was consistently Brisbane's best player and they won plenty of games. No teammates really challenged his BOGiness (TM Axe Man).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Sort of but you don't win a Brownlow for being consistent. He was consistently Brisbane's best player and they won plenty of games. No teammates really challenged his BOGiness (TM Axe Man).
    He's definitely far and away the alpha dog in the Brisbane midfield.

    As an aside, how good has their trading been in recent times?

    Neale AND Charlie Cameron brought in from other clubs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    He's definitely far and away the alpha dog in the Brisbane midfield.

    As an aside, how good has their trading been in recent times?

    Neale AND Charlie Cameron brought in from other clubs.
    Don't forget trading down pick 2 to pick 3 in 2016. They also handed GWS a bunch of late picks they were never going to use and picked up pick 16 with it, got the player they would have taken at pick 1 if they had it (McCluggage) and got pick 16 (Jarrad Berry) as a freebie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Sort of but you don't win a Brownlow for being consistent. He was consistently Brisbane's best player and they won plenty of games. No teammates really challenged his BOGiness (TM Axe Man).
    Sticky this comment.
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    Surprised at how Bont didn't poll this year.

    Particularly the Melbourne game, where he didn't get a vote at all even though he got 9 coaches votes. V Adelaide he got 10 from the coaches and got the 2, and there were a number of other games where you may have expected him to sneak in with a 1 or 2 and he got nil. Whereas Macrae's game seems to have been rated higher by the umpires than by the coaches thats for sure.

    Caleb Daniel surprising lack of polling also.

    I guess with the umps, more often than not, quantity is what gets you there - and possessions equals votes traditionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozza View Post
    Surprised at how Bont didn't poll this year.

    Particularly the Melbourne game, where he didn't get a vote at all even though he got 9 coaches votes. V Adelaide he got 10 from the coaches and got the 2, and there were a number of other games where you may have expected him to sneak in with a 1 or 2 and he got nil. Whereas Macrae's game seems to have been rated higher by the umpires than by the coaches thats for sure.

    Caleb Daniel surprising lack of polling also.

    I guess with the umps, more often than not, quantity is what gets you there - and possessions equals votes traditionally.
    Yep. The Umps aren't in a position to determine who is having the most influence on a game. They're just noticing who gets it the most. Who they saw the most after a game. I don't blame them. They've got a tough enough job as it is without having to work out who is influencing the game the most. The whole concept is out-dated. It should be changed ASAP.

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