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Re: Rating our list 2020 Josh Schache 13
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
This is my take too. He's valuable to us BECAUSE he's not going to get in the way of the high flyers. His work rate is great, he's an excellent kick and in my opinion we simply look better when he's playing.
He'll never have Clay Smith's attitude, but his strengths are an area that we are weak in IMO.
I haven't any confidence that he'll play - I think Beveridge just doesn't like him - but I hope I'm wrong.
Agree, I also think Bevo either doesn’t like him, or doesn’t rate him. Either way, his papers have been stamped. I expected someone like North or Essendon look into him as a possible trade, but obviously no interest anywhere, and that for a young KPF (where some teams are lucky to have 1), is concerning. I said in another post, I’d be surprised if he played more than 6 games in 2021.
I will never see #16 the same!!
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Re: Rating our list 2020 Josh Schache 13
Originally Posted by
Sedat
I worry about his absolute competitiveness to want to win every single contest he is involved in, but there's absolutely no doubt he worked much better in sync with Naughts up forward in 2019 than Bruce did in 2020.
Me too, although competitiveness can come in different shapes. His ability to gut run is something that I think is underrated.
I'd like if he was better in the contest that's for sure, but maybe we have to accept he is what he is in that field.
"It's over. It's all over."
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Re: Rating our list 2020 Josh Schache 13
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
Me too, although competitiveness can come in different shapes. His ability to gut run is something that I think is underrated.
I'd like if he was better in the contest that's for sure, but maybe we have to accept he is what he is in that field.
In 2018 Hawthorn was a strong team and finished 4th. The Dogs were 13th, having been lower all season.
After round 1 in 2019 the Hawks were 4th.
After round two the Hawks were 9th. Unfortunately they were not able to subdue Schache. He got 4 goals and gave a couple away. I thought he was close to best on ground.
That weekend the Dogs were 4th on the ladder- they have only been in the top 4 twice in the 4 years since the premiership.
Time to let Schache play his natural game, he will have some bad games but who cares. He has been a very reliable forward.
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Re: Rating our list 2020 Josh Schache 13
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
Me too, although competitiveness can come in different shapes. His ability to gut run is something that I think is underrated.
I'd like if he was better in the contest that's for sure, but maybe we have to accept he is what he is in that field.
If played to his strengths he is getting the ball on the lead and virtually uncontested.
Why don't we build a game plan to utilise the strengths on the list.
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Re: Rating our list 2020 Josh Schache 13
Originally Posted by
Danjul
In 2018 Hawthorn was a strong team and finished 4th. The Dogs were 13th, having been lower all season.
After round 1 in 2019 the Hawks were 4th.
After round two the Hawks were 9th. Unfortunately they were not able to subdue Schache. He got 4 goals and gave a couple away. I thought he was close to best on ground.
That weekend the Dogs were 4th on the ladder- they have only been in the top 4 twice in the 4 years since the premiership.
Time to let Schache play his natural game, he will have some bad games but who cares. He has been a very reliable forward.
Not me that needs convincing.
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
If played to his strengths he is getting the ball on the lead and virtually uncontested.
Why don't we build a game plan to utilise the strengths on the list.
Great point.
"It's over. It's all over."
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Re: Rating our list 2020 Josh Schache 13
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
Not me that needs convincing.
Great point.
Thank me later - a suggestion for your new avatar
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Re: Rating our list 2020 Josh Schache 13
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Thank me later - a suggestion for your new avatar
What makes you think I'm ever changing my avatar?
Besides, if I was going a Schache avatar I'd be borrowing The Pie Man's.
"It's over. It's all over."
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Re: Rating our list 2020 Josh Schache 13
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Thank me later - a suggestion for your new avatar
Any surer thing than Schache getting outbodied and Bruce dropping the mark there?
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Re: Rating our list 2020 Josh Schache 13
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Any surer thing than Schache getting outbodied and Bruce dropping the mark there?
Why are the coaches allowing this to pass for ‘training’?
Training is supposed to contain an element called improvement.
Everyone can see the problem clearly. This should have been fixed years ago. People are not doing their job.
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Re: Rating our list 2020 Josh Schache 13
Originally Posted by
Danjul
Why are the coaches allowing this to pass for ‘training’?
Training is supposed to contain an element called improvement.
Everyone can see the problem clearly. This should have been fixed years ago. People are not doing their job.
Enlighten us?
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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Re: Rating our list 2020 Josh Schache 13
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
What makes you think I'm ever changing my avatar?
True, I would keep it
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Re: Rating our list 2020 Josh Schache 13
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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Re: Rating our list 2020 Josh Schache 13
Originally Posted by
bornadog
double
Post of the day.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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Re: Rating our list 2020 Josh Schache 13
There's probably a good reason why we don't forge an entire forward structure to suit the way Schache plays, possibly much like there's a reason why we got him on the cheap and why nobody acquired him from us in the same vein this most recent trading period.
He is a nice player, with good finishing skills. He clearly isn't fit or strong enough to be an impact forward, even if he can run a long way lots and lots even though we've never really seen that from him.......apart from those much fabled time to time moments.
In his case he is the one who needs to get bigger and stronger so he can do things other than look good running by himself. I mean have a look at him, he's tiny. His shoulders and the rest of his body are a complete disgrace for someone who has been in the system for as long as he has.
Work hard Josh. Your career depends on it.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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Re: Rating our list 2020 Josh Schache 13
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
What makes you think I'm ever changing my avatar?
Besides, if I was going a Schache avatar I'd be borrowing The Pie Man's.
Is TPMs avatar Schache?
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.