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25-02-2021, 11:47 AM
#391
Re: Preseason Training 2021
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Sure if we had come out and belted them then it would probably be more comfortable, but this stuff is really more about trial and error with the ball in hand than it is about manic intensity. Do any of us *really* have concerns over Bont’s disposal or Bailey Smith’s trajectory?
No, those 2 should be fine. It's everywhere besides the midfield that concerns me and nothing from yesterday addressed that.
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25-02-2021, 11:50 AM
#392
Re: Preseason Training 2021
Originally Posted by
comrade
No, those 2 should be fine. It's everywhere besides the midfield that concerns me and nothing from yesterday addressed that.
Backline partial agree. Gardner is still a worry and Keath got lost with the ball in the air a couple of times yesterday (which given how he plays is a bit of a big yikes). But most of the forwards were pretty good across both games?
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25-02-2021, 12:26 PM
#393
Re: Preseason Training 2021
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Backline partial agree. Gardner is still a worry and Keath got lost with the ball in the air a couple of times yesterday (which given how he plays is a bit of a big yikes). But most of the forwards were pretty good across both games?
Individually they were fine, but I'm looking for signs of a cohesive system that will stand up against the best sides. Obviously hard to judge without Naughton there, but I just don't think we're strong enough down there with Wallis, Dale, West and Vandermeer as our medium/smalls.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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25-02-2021, 12:33 PM
#394
Re: Preseason Training 2021
Reading Steven King's comments after the game yesterday he made it pretty clear Martin will be first ruck with English starting forward. Went on to say that Stef will have to "learn how to play forward in our system".
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25-02-2021, 12:33 PM
#395
Re: Preseason Training 2021
Originally Posted by
comrade
Individually they were fine, but I'm looking for signs of a cohesive system that will stand up against the best sides. Obviously hard to judge without Naughton there, but I just don't think we're strong enough down there with Wallis, Dale, West and Vandermeer as our medium/smalls.
Whilst the things you're concerned about are the things I really want to see change, I'm, just not convinced we were ever going to be able to test that in the first practice game (not even a pre-season level match). If this is still showing rnd 1, then sound the alarms.
I'm happy we didn't incur any significant injury, and the boys got a run under their belt.
If anything a praccy game loss, really reinforces the work they still need to do and hopefully that augurs well for a team that doesn't just think it's going to all click come round 1.
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25-02-2021, 01:52 PM
#396
Re: Preseason Training 2021
Originally Posted by
comrade
Individually they were fine, but I'm looking for signs of a cohesive system that will stand up against the best sides. Obviously hard to judge without Naughton there, but I just don't think we're strong enough down there with Wallis, Dale, West and Vandermeer as our medium/smalls.
How many of these guys will even play?
I'm thinking 1 maybe 2.
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25-02-2021, 01:54 PM
#397
Re: Preseason Training 2021
Originally Posted by
Mantis
How many of these guys will even play?
I'm thinking 1 maybe 2.
I think Wallis and Vandermeer are definites, West a good chance if he follows up over the next few weeks.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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25-02-2021, 02:09 PM
#398
Re: Preseason Training 2021
One question I have, is what were the rotation numbers for each team? Not sure if it was mentioned in the broadcast or listed anywhere.
Traditionally Bevo has been a 'practise how we play' kinda guy, sticking to the prescribed interchanges despite our opponents often throwing restrictions out the window.
I seem to remember we have been run over late in quarters and in the last quarter in preseason games where this has been a thing.
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25-02-2021, 02:17 PM
#399
Re: Preseason Training 2021
Originally Posted by
The Adelaide Connection
One question I have, is what were the rotation numbers for each team? Not sure if it was mentioned in the broadcast or listed anywhere.
Traditionally Bevo has been a 'practise how we play' kinda guy, sticking to the prescribed interchanges despite our opponents often throwing restrictions out the window.
I seem to remember we have been run over late in quarters and in the last quarter in preseason games where this has been a thing.
I thought I heard that the Hawks had 6 on the bench to our 5, not sure of rotation numbers.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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25-02-2021, 02:41 PM
#400
Re: Preseason Training 2021
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Reading Steven King's comments after the game yesterday he made it pretty clear Martin will be first ruck with English starting forward. Went on to say that Stef will have to "learn how to play forward in our system".
I have very little faith that Stef Martin will be a threat when resting forward for us.
I have an enormous amount of faith that English is a real threat forward of the ball.
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25-02-2021, 02:42 PM
#401
Re: Preseason Training 2021
Originally Posted by
comrade
I thought I heard that the Hawks had 6 on the bench to our 5, not sure of rotation numbers.
They did but I think Granger-Barrass only played a half for the Hawks.
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25-02-2021, 02:50 PM
#402
Re: Preseason Training 2021
Originally Posted by
comrade
I think Wallis and Vandermeer are definites, West a good chance if he follows up over the next few weeks.
It's sure going to be interesting with how we fit all the mids into the team and try and keep some ''pure'' small/ mid forwards in there too.
Originally Posted by
Mofra
I have very little faith that Stef Martin will be a threat when resting forward for us.
I have an enormous amount of faith that English is a real threat forward of the ball.
Do you have enormous faith that our forward-line will function with English up forward with Bruce & Naughton down there too?
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25-02-2021, 02:58 PM
#403
Re: Preseason Training 2021
Originally Posted by
Mantis
It's sure going to be interesting with how we fit all the mids into the team and try and keep some ''pure'' small/ mid forwards in there too.
Do you have enormous faith that our forward-line will function with English up forward with Bruce & Naughton down there too?
To be fair though, if Naughton takes Dale’s spot, he’s better in the air, better at ground level and quicker with defensive pressure. It’s not like he’s a liability when the ball hits the deck. And really, could our forward line function less well? Not saying it’s a sure thing, but it’s worth a shot.
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25-02-2021, 02:59 PM
#404
Re: Preseason Training 2021
Wallis Bruce West
English Naughton Vandermeer
That's how I think we'll line up in round 1.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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25-02-2021, 03:17 PM
#405
Re: Preseason Training 2021
Originally Posted by
The Underdog
To be fair though, if Naughton takes Dale’s spot, he’s better in the air, better at ground level and quicker with defensive pressure. It’s not like he’s a liability when the ball hits the deck. And really, could our forward line function less well? Not saying it’s a sure thing, but it’s worth a shot.
We're lucky that Naughts is our best air & ground player in the front half as he will help cover off the deficiencies of others.
Originally Posted by
comrade
Wallis Bruce West
English Naughton Vandermeer
That's how I think we'll line up in round 1.
That means Dunkley & B.Smith start on the bench? Maybe another pure mid too depending on who plays on the ''other'' wing? (Hunter on one)
I can't see how we play all of West, Wallis & VD given how many mids we need to fit in.