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Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Not sure if this has been shared - Adelaides behind the scenes war room on draft prep. Interesting commentary on the decision to select Jamarra:
https://twitter.com/Adelaide_FC/stat...701522945?s=08
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Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
AshMac
Cut.
OK guys the spin is done let's talk reality
Bryce Gibbs.. How do we get him back in....
I accidentally read the comments.
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Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
AshMac
And this is what annoys me, the decision to bid on JUH wasn't about nabbing him, but tactically screwing us and our remaining picks. The intent of introducing bidding was to ensure clubs didnt just get top flight talent tied to them through F/S or NGA for peanuts, not to
use as a tactic to increase your club's leverage later in the draft.
They said in the meeting they rated Thilthorpe as number 1. Good, pick him at 1 then. To do otherwise is manifestly tampering.
Anyway, stuff them. I hope JUH posterises their defenders for years to come.
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Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
And this is what annoys me, the decision to bid on JUH wasn't about nabbing him, but tactically screwing us and our remaining picks. The intent of introducing bidding was to ensure clubs didnt just get top flight talent tied to them through F/S or NGA for peanuts, not to
use as a tactic to increase your club's leverage later in the draft.
They said in the meeting they rated Thilthorpe as number 1. Good, pick him at 1 then. To do otherwise is manifestly tampering.
Anyway, stuff them. I hope JUH posterises their defenders for years to come.
I just saw it as cleverly edited spin for their fans tbh.
Did we ever intend to get Rowe? I don't recall his name being mentioned but I've got a bad memory.
It's certainly competitive behaviour.
They're going so insular it could back fire. A team of South Australians exclusively.
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Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
And this is what annoys me, the decision to bid on JUH wasn't about nabbing him, but tactically screwing us and our remaining picks. The intent of introducing bidding was to ensure clubs didnt just get top flight talent tied to them through F/S or NGA for peanuts, not to
use as a tactic to increase your club's leverage later in the draft.
They said in the meeting they rated Thilthorpe as number 1. Good, pick him at 1 then. To do otherwise is manifestly tampering.
Anyway, stuff them. I hope JUH posterises their defenders for years to come.
We got access to the best talent in the land and used picks in the 30s and 40s to get him. It's an absolute rort that we thankfully benefited from. I don't begrudge any side from tactically bidding to increase their own position throughout the draft order.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Yeah heaps of clubs can rightfully get annoyed about the NGA system but literally none of the clubs that received a player through it have been hard done by at all.
Good on Adelaide for keeping us accountable. We still made out like bandits.
I should leave it alone but you're not right
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Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
soupaman
Yeah heaps of clubs can rightfully get annoyed about the NGA system but literally none of the clubs that received a player through it have been hard done by at all.
Good on Adelaide for keeping us accountable. We still made out like bandits.
I was confident Adelaide would do this weeks ago, when it was clear they were going to finish last. I'm not bemoaning we were ripped off either. I'm just highlighting an unintended consequence of the bidding process between its intent and its application. Their bid wasn't about making us accountable, it was about leveraging the outcome of a bid they knew we would match, for a result that had nothing to do with their desire to take JUH at pick 1.
Yep good on them, smart tactical move, but again like most AFL rules they end up having outcomes that don't match the intent.
Good on our recruiting team in making sure we had enough draft capital to secure him taking into account a potential pick 1 bid.
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Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
I just saw it as cleverly edited spin for their fans tbh.
Did we ever intend to get Rowe? I don't recall his name being mentioned but I've got a bad memory.
It's certainly competitive behaviour.
They're going so insular it could back fire. A team of South Australians exclusively.
We were linked to Rowe in at least 1 phantom draft.
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Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Even with a bid at pick 2 or 3, it would have brought us up to a pick in the mid-late 40s. Rowe was picked at 38.
Impossible to know who or what we would have done later in the draft, so this is also probably some cope from Adelaide to justify to their fans why they bid.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
We were linked to Rowe in at least 1 phantom draft.
Right. So the plan might have been to bundle up some picks and move up to a spot before the Crows if true. It's a fascinating process the current draft. I quite enjoy all the machinations.
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Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
comrade
Even with a bid at pick 2 or 3, it would have brought us up to a pick in the mid-late 40s. Rowe was picked at 38.
Impossible to know who or what we would have done later in the draft, so this is also probably some cope from Adelaide to justify to their fans why they bid.
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Right. So the plan might have been to bundle up some picks and move up to a spot before the Crows if true. It's a fascinating process the current draft. I quite enjoy all the machinations.
As Granty says the Crows mention in the video that we may have been able to bundle a couple of picks to jump ahead of them and grab Rowe. So many mind games and trying to predict what other teams may do. Must be a stressful process.
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Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
I'm rapt they did bid at 1. Front page of the HUN, on all the primetime radio shows, TV interviews. Our sponsors are front and centre. Our commercial staff will be loving it.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
The Underdog
Takes the pressure & focus off Thilthorpe (and the decision to draft him)
Will he will always remembered as the one who wasn't the first choice of the Cows.
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Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
ratsmac
Thank you crows for confirming that you didn't get the best player available in the draft!! Smart marketing? We positioned ourselves well for this and boom we have the lime light.
Welcome JUH, so happy to have you onboard!!
Yes. Was worth the extra points we had to pay.
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Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
WBFC4FFC
Replacing Mercedes Benz as a Sponsor would help too.
Might be Peter's last hoorah.