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    Re: Adam Treloar poses questions about Bulldogs’ midfield mix

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    The contenders to be dropped are Ed, Wood and JUH.
    I can see JJ not being an automatic selection too. Young for Cordy (and I'm a huge Cordy fan) could be another move the selection we could go for.
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    Re: Adam Treloar poses questions about Bulldogs’ midfield mix

    Martin isn't a week to week ruckman for mine - he'll speed up English's development and play a bunch of games to stop English getting monstered, but if I was to pick the ruckman to take the bulk of the duties I still think English is the guy.

    Martin may be an 'every second week' euckman and provides ruck coaching outside of the soft cap. I'm very happy we got him but I don't think he's the ruckman the media heads think he is.

    Hannan is great near goal, mediocre up the field. If Hannan is running around on the wing we're not going great - VDM rotates on one wing with Smith/Macrae/Treloar taking rotations too. Hunter glues himself to the other wing and makes up for last year.

    We play Keath, and one of Cordy/Young/Gardner and back our system in to slow the play down enough to allow our interceptors to go to work.
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    Re: Adam Treloar poses questions about Bulldogs’ midfield mix

    Quote Originally Posted by Mofra View Post
    Martin isn't a week to week ruckman for mine - he'll speed up English's development and play a bunch of games to stop English getting monstered, but if I was to pick the ruckman to take the bulk of the duties I still think English is the guy.

    Martin may be an 'every second week' euckman and provides ruck coaching outside of the soft cap. I'm very happy we got him but I don't think he's the ruckman the media heads think he is.

    Hannan is great near goal, mediocre up the field. If Hannan is running around on the wing we're not going great - VDM rotates on one wing with Smith/Macrae/Treloar taking rotations too. Hunter glues himself to the other wing and makes up for last year.

    We play Keath, and one of Cordy/Young/Gardner and back our system in to slow the play down enough to allow our interceptors to go to work.
    This is really important. Our defence must start while the ball is 50-60 metres away with our mids taking responsibility for opponents and manning them up or sitting them on their arse before the ball comes into that zone. We have to make the defenders' job simpler and not let the ball ping into the opposition forward 50 at high speed.
    Have you been reading those Roddy Doyle books again, Dougal!?


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    Re: Adam Treloar poses questions about Bulldogs’ midfield mix

    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    This is really important. Our defence must start while the ball is 50-60 metres away with our mids taking responsibility for opponents and manning them up or sitting them on their arse before the ball comes into that zone. We have to make the defenders' job simpler and not let the ball ping into the opposition forward 50 at high speed.
    We have consistently proven that this is impossible when all the team is focused on a handball game used to run the ball over a long distance . It drags players away from their opponents, so one mistake turns the ball over to loose players ready to link up. They deliver the ball to their forwards with precision that makes our backmen irrelevant.

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    Re: Adam Treloar poses questions about Bulldogs’ midfield mix

    Ralphy has updated his best 22

    Now
    BEST 22 FOR NEXT SEASON

    B: Easton Wood, Alex Keath, Hayden Crozier

    HB: Jason Johannisen, Zaine Cordy, Caleb Daniel

    C: Lachie Hunter, Marcus Bontempelli, Jackson Macrae

    HF: Josh Dunkley, Josh Bruce, Mitch Hannan

    F: Mitch Wallis, Aaron Naughton, Tom Liberatore

    R: Stef Martin, Adam Treloar, Bailey Smith

    INT: Tim English, Ed Richards, Bailey Williams, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan

    Before

    B: Easton Wood, Alex Keath, Hayden Crozier

    HB: Jason Johannisen, Zaine Cordy, Caleb Daniel

    C: Lachie Hunter, Tom Liberatore, Jackson Macrae

    HF: Josh Dunkley, Josh Bruce, Mitch Hannan

    F: Mitch Wallis, Aaron Naughton, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan

    R: Stef Martin, Adam Treloar, Bailey Smith

    INT: Tim English, Ed Richards, Bailey Williams, Laitham Vandermeer

    Vandermeer is the unlucky one
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    Re: Adam Treloar poses questions about Bulldogs’ midfield mix

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Ralphy has updated his best 22
    Knows a little about football, nothing about the Dogs. Should be

    B: Easton Wood, Aaron Naughton , Hayden Crozier

    HB: Jason Johannisen, Tim English, Alex Keath

    C: Lachie Hunter, Marcus Bontempelli, Jackson Macrae

    HF: Josh Dunkley, Josh Schache , Caleb Daniel

    F: Mitch Wallis, josh Bruce, Zaine Cordy

    R: Stef Martin, Adam Treloar, Bailey Smith

    INT: Tom Liberatore, Laitham Vandermeer, Bailey Williams, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan

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    Re: Adam Treloar poses questions about Bulldogs’ midfield mix

    Quote Originally Posted by Danjul View Post
    Knows a little about football, nothing about the Dogs. Should be

    B: Easton Wood, Aaron Naughton , Hayden Crozier

    HB: Jason Johannisen, Tim English, Alex Keath

    C: Lachie Hunter, Marcus Bontempelli, Jackson Macrae

    HF: Josh Dunkley, Josh Schache , Caleb Daniel

    F: Mitch Wallis, josh Bruce, Zaine Cordy

    R: Stef Martin, Adam Treloar, Bailey Smith

    INT: Tom Liberatore, Laitham Vandermeer, Bailey Williams, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan

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    Re: Adam Treloar poses questions about Bulldogs’ midfield mix

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Tim English CHB - i will run down Bourke St naked if that happens.
    Well I don't think the footy club will be inundated with requests for it to if that's the case.
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    Re: Adam Treloar poses questions about Bulldogs’ midfield mix

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Tim English CHB - i will run down Bourke St naked if that happens.
    1. It’s where he has played his best football.
    2. He has the kicking ability to bring Schache into the game.
    3. He can move forward if Bruce has a repeat of 2020. Bruce has to be close to goal, he struggled with distance and accuracy (I suspect that he is carrying a back/hip injury).

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    Re: Adam Treloar poses questions about Bulldogs’ midfield mix

    Quote Originally Posted by Danjul View Post
    Knows a little about football, nothing about the Dogs. Should be

    B: Easton Wood, Aaron Naughton , Hayden Crozier

    HB: Jason Johannisen, Tim English, Alex Keath

    C: Lachie Hunter, Marcus Bontempelli, Jackson Macrae

    HF: Josh Dunkley, Josh Schache , Caleb Daniel

    F: Mitch Wallis, josh Bruce, Zaine Cordy

    R: Stef Martin, Adam Treloar, Bailey Smith

    INT: Tom Liberatore, Laitham Vandermeer, Bailey Williams, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan

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    Re: Adam Treloar poses questions about Bulldogs’ midfield mix

    Quote Originally Posted by Danjul View Post
    1. It’s where he has played his best football.
    2. He has the kicking ability to bring Schache into the game.
    3. He can move forward if Bruce has a repeat of 2020. Bruce has to be close to goal, he struggled with distance and accuracy (I suspect that he is carrying a back/hip injury).
    Can he defend the position and his opponent though or is he more of a zone player?
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    Re: Adam Treloar poses questions about Bulldogs’ midfield mix

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Can he defend the position and his opponent though or is he more of a zone player?
    An option is to drop Bruce, put English at CHF and Schache at FF.

    Young is my preference for CHB but, as 2020 proved, Bruce is undropable.

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    Re: Adam Treloar poses questions about Bulldogs’ midfield mix

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    An option is to drop Bruce
    I'm in.

    The move I like is Cordy forward. I don't see how we do it in real life as we have an abundance of mediocre to good tall forwards and about 1 key defender, but after being very big on Cordy for his 2017-18 in defence his 2019-20 have been atrocious and I'm starting to think he needs a change to reinvigorate his career. As a defender he is not big enough to play proper tall, and is getting annihilated in one on one contests while giving us nothing to compensate (obviously his left foot inboard kicks excluded, they are awesome).

    I actually think I'd cut him from our defence before Gardner, and I don't particularly rate Gardner.
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    Re: Adam Treloar poses questions about Bulldogs’ midfield mix

    Quote Originally Posted by soupaman View Post
    I'm in.

    The move I like is Cordy forward. I don't see how we do it in real life as we have an abundance of mediocre to good tall forwards and about 1 key defender, but after being very big on Cordy for his 2017-18 in defence his 2019-20 have been atrocious and I'm starting to think he needs a change to reinvigorate his career. As a defender he is not big enough to play proper tall, and is getting annihilated in one on one contests while giving us nothing to compensate (obviously his left foot inboard kicks excluded, they are awesome).

    I actually think I'd cut him from our defence before Gardner, and I don't particularly rate Gardner.
    He could get himself into the gym and work his arse off to get stronger first.
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    Re: Adam Treloar poses questions about Bulldogs’ midfield mix

    Quote Originally Posted by soupaman View Post
    I'm in.

    The move I like is Cordy forward. I don't see how we do it in real life as we have an abundance of mediocre to good tall forwards and about 1 key defender, but after being very big on Cordy for his 2017-18 in defence his 2019-20 have been atrocious and I'm starting to think he needs a change to reinvigorate his career. As a defender he is not big enough to play proper tall, and is getting annihilated in one on one contests while giving us nothing to compensate (obviously his left foot inboard kicks excluded, they are awesome).

    I actually think I'd cut him from our defence before Gardner, and I don't particularly rate Gardner.
    Agree with this - especially those inboard left foot kicks, they are a thing of beauty.

    I think Cordy needs to reinvent himself or he's done. He's fortunate we have essentially no key backs aside from Keath who are quality because he wouldn't get a game in a large majority of sides as a defender.

    I liked him as a forward, but hard to see a spot for him with Bruce, Naughty, Marra and Schache. Also worth noting while he did some nice things forward at times, we forget Grundy took about 15 marks in the Grand Final on him.

    For mine, Cordy should be a depth player in 2021.
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