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    Re: Should Tasmania have an AFL team?

    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    Agree completely. We don't have Foxtel, got rid of it and went with Kayo a couple of years ago.
    Kayo is owned by Foxtel
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    Re: Should Tasmania have an AFL team?

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Kayo is owned by Foxtel
    Go to your room.
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    I have, yeah Ted, you big gobshite

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    Re: Should Tasmania have an AFL team?

    TD is so right wing he's drawn to Murdoch products without even knowing it!

    Back on topic, and I don't want to come off as patronising (well no more than I usually do) but the people of Tasmania actually deserve something for themselves in a socio-economic landscape that usually forgets them or takes them for granted. And I think an AFL team is a good place to start.

    A refurb in the south, and a base in the north would sort out home games split evenly between the two grounds/ geographies. A government sponsorship, I don't know, something similar to the one the Hawks have benefitted from for over a decade and they're on their way.

    Tasmania is only going to become stronger in a post COVID world. The real estate is cheaper but is booming and won't stop, and folks can work remotely more readily now than they could in the past. Football tourism to Tasmania and its wine regions and excellent outdoor activity options will grow. The AFL should be looking to Tasmania for something different and unconventional.
    Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.

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    Re: Should Tasmania have an AFL team?

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    I would prefer Tasmania than a Gold Coast based team. At least Footy is followed in Tassie.
    I think this is the case for the team in Tassie AND for the counter.

    Footy ratings in Tassie are as high as anywhere else in Australia...it isn't like the AFL will attract a new audience by moving there. Carlton will lose a few thousand members as the locals jump ship to Team Tassie but no new supporters are going to appear.

    Teams on the Gold Coast and the GWS area - particularly the GWS area - are at least targeting new supporters/players/etc...10000 members for the Giants is prob 8000 new to the game - 10000 in Tassie is prob 9999 existing followers of other clubs.

    When the Weagles/Cows/Sh!t Fish/Power stumped up the $4million for licenses, Tassie could have done the same - the VFL saw the $-signs and wanted the money...but funding and corporate support was an issue. Why is that so different now?

    From a 'footy' level, of course Tassie should have team. But why would the factional nature of footy 'down there' that has always made having a single state league an issue be resolved by plonking an AFL side in - I assume - Hobart?
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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    Re: Should Tasmania have an AFL team?

    Would a potential solution to the partisan divide in Tassie between North and South be overcome by making them the Tasmanian team, and splitting their home games between Launceston and Hobart?

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    Re: Should Tasmania have an AFL team?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot View Post
    Would a potential solution to the partisan divide in Tassie between North and South be overcome by making them the Tasmanian team, and splitting their home games between Launceston and Hobart?
    I think they are gonna have to go for a soccer type "Tasmania United" name, although without understanding the Tasmanian mindset would that just feel like it was a team that was hedging it's bets and wasn't really committing to either?

    I love the idea of a Tassie side, but i do think it has limited scope. As mjp says it won't attract a new crowd to the game, and personally i find it hard to see it become a bigger club than a St.Kilda or Melbourne, although that isn't to say it couldn't be a very well run club that is a force on field. I do think there are more factors at play though than just "as financially big as possible", i think the AFL's role as a caretaker of the game should be less about cold financial realities and more about whether it can continue to grow the game for all and do the right thing. The right thing from my pov would be to keep clubs like North not only going but give them opportuntiies to grow een if the perceived benefit is less than what say a Richmond could claim, and providing a team to a loyal footy state that may not be the sexiest option would be a positive move in that regard.

    Also I hate the constant belittling of GWS and Gold Coast. I don't think anything we have seen regarding their off field support or success has been unexpected (well maybe Gold Coast could have used some better facilities) but the potential for both is still there and throwing them away now would be dumb. Bad analogy but it would be like putting your 9 year old up for adoption because he isn't an adult yet, even though you (the AFL) knew it would take 18 minimum from the outset.
    I should leave it alone but you're not right

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    Re: Should Tasmania have an AFL team?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    TD is so right wing he's drawn to Murdoch products without even knowing it!

    My dear old dad used to accuse me of being right wing because I aligned with Labor Unity and worked to undo socialist control back in my Young Labor days in the '80s.

    Happy days!
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    Re: Should Tasmania have an AFL team?

    The decision to allow Hawthorn and NM a presence in Tasmania has effectively killed off the development of local Tasmanian football.
    Gone are the days when the likes of Baldock Stewart Roach Hart Lawrence Crosswell Davis and many others were recruited by Victorian based Clubs. The massive AFL National TV contract which requires two Clubs in both Queensland and NSW is the main cause of the feeble attempt to have a Tasmanian based Club . The Tasmanian Government hasn’t helped its cause by sponsoring the two Melbourne based Clubs to the tune of $8 million dollars to play in Tasmania, money that should have been used to promote its own Tasmanian football development.
    It has been a financial windfall for both Hawthorn and North Melbourne.
    The AFL now effectively runs football in Tasmania which has only served to drastically weaken local competitions.
    Hard to believe that Tassie which has a proud history of Australian Rules football has been forced to die on the vine at the expense of both Queensland and NSW which are both dominated by Rugby and where the AFL has spent millions and millions of dollars to make them viable.

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    Re: Should Tasmania have an AFL team?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggety Back Pocket View Post
    The decision to allow Hawthorn and NM a presence in Tasmania has effectively killed off the development of local Tasmanian football.
    Gone are the days when the likes of Baldock Stewart Roach Hart Lawrence Crosswell Davis and many others were recruited by Victorian based Clubs. The massive AFL National TV contract which requires two Clubs in both Queensland and NSW is the main cause of the feeble attempt to have a Tasmanian based Club . The Tasmanian Government hasn’t helped its cause by sponsoring the two Melbourne based Clubs to the tune of $8 million dollars to play in Tasmania, money that should have been used to promote its own Tasmanian football development.
    It has been a financial windfall for both Hawthorn and North Melbourne.
    The AFL now effectively runs football in Tasmania which has only served to drastically weaken local competitions.
    Hard to believe that Tassie which has a proud history of Australian Rules football has been forced to die on the vine at the expense of both Queensland and NSW which are both dominated by Rugby and where the AFL has spent millions and millions of dollars to make them viable.
    Good assessment NBP
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    Re: Should Tasmania have an AFL team?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggety Back Pocket View Post
    The decision to allow Hawthorn and NM a presence in Tasmania has effectively killed off the development of local Tasmanian football.
    Gone are the days when the likes of Baldock Stewart Roach Hart Lawrence Crosswell Davis and many others were recruited by Victorian based Clubs. The massive AFL National TV contract which requires two Clubs in both Queensland and NSW is the main cause of the feeble attempt to have a Tasmanian based Club . The Tasmanian Government hasn’t helped its cause by sponsoring the two Melbourne based Clubs to the tune of $8 million dollars to play in Tasmania, money that should have been used to promote its own Tasmanian football development.
    It has been a financial windfall for both Hawthorn and North Melbourne.
    The AFL now effectively runs football in Tasmania which has only served to drastically weaken local competitions.
    Hard to believe that Tassie which has a proud history of Australian Rules football has been forced to die on the vine at the expense of both Queensland and NSW which are both dominated by Rugby and where the AFL has spent millions and millions of dollars to make them viable.
    That includes the best to come out of Tassie the great Peter Hudson.

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    Re: Should Tasmania have an AFL team?

    Quote Originally Posted by EasternWest View Post
    But what if Essendon is playing Hawthorn?
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    Re: Should Tasmania have an AFL team?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog4life View Post
    That includes the best to come out of Tassie the great Peter Hudson.
    Thanks B4L. Hudson, Colin Robertson,Graham Wright, Scratcher Neal, John Bonney, Ray Groom, Peter Marquis,Tassie Johnson,John Greening, Rodney Eade, were other well known players to come out of Tasmania. Both Gary Lyon and Richo were born on the North West Coast of Tasmania where their fathers had taken up Coaching roles from the then VFL.

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    Re: Should Tasmania have an AFL team?

    Alan Rait was a fairly good player for us from Tasmania.

    He kicked 10 v Carlton. 59 in 15 games in his first season with bags of 8 and 7 as well as the 10 but only played 4 more games. Gotta be a story behind that.

    https://afltables.com/afl/stats/play...Alan_Rait.html
    Have you been reading those Roddy Doyle books again, Dougal!?


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    Re: Should Tasmania have an AFL team?

    So who is the greatest Bulldog from Tasmania?

    Super MacPherson, Axe Atkins?
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    Jesse Wells?
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